I never said he needed saving, I said he was in a saved state and he had no eternal life. Being given eternal life is to be celebrated as royalty. What God has done for us in Christ is far more than mere salvation.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I never said he needed saving, I said he was in a saved state and he had no eternal life. Being given eternal life is to be celebrated as royalty. What God has done for us in Christ is far more than mere salvation.
Man is born in transgression and sin (Psalm 51 verse 5, 58 verse 3), dead in transgressions (Ephesians 2 verse 5), his heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure (Jeremiah 17 verse 9), held captive by a love for sin (John 3 verse 19; John 8 verse 34), so that he will not seek God (Romans 3 verses 10-11), because he loves the darkness (John 3 verse 19), and does not understand the things of God (1 Corinthians 2 verse 14), nor can he change himself (Jeremiah 13 verse 23). He suppresses the truth of God in unrighteousness (Romans 1 verse 18) and continues to willfully live in sin because he is totally depraved; this sinful lifestyle seems right to men (Proverbs 14 verse 12); they reject the gospel of Christ as foolishness (1 Corinthians 1 verse 18), and their mind is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. (Romans 8 verse 7).
Alls all a psy-op man.
The shucking and jiving, the double talk, the red herrings, the fades.
That standardized canned response had already de-Calvinized.
Try and keep up will you.
Just because you spiritually reject something doesn't mean you can spiritually accept something the bible is very clear the canral mind cannot and I mean cannot percieve the things of the spirit
Lol. Adam was regent of the planet. He named all of the animals (by personal name) in one day. He walked with God and saw His face.
And you?
Well there it is. Guess I might as well go to the bar and shoot some pool. Since it doesnt matter what I do might as well have some shots and beers.
Something can be said re: each statement, but I'll keep it to repeating re: the last one: Any engagement can be self-validating if critique is reframed as attention. Reframing and pivoting being the customary practice.
And that's your stock comeback for everything in the Bible you don't like or understand. You should really try to come up with something new - this is getting old. Anyway, I knew you wouldn't be able to accept it but thought I'd post for the edification of others who were misled by your lack of understanding of true and correct scriptural doctrine.
2 Corinthians 4 v 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
He wasn't in a saved estate. He was in a works covenant with God. He was simply a sinless natural man.
Couple of things:
The Jewish wedding protocol that Jesus refers to (you remain utterly clueless, despite the fine teachings already provided).
The other verses that make up that lengthy discourse.
Have a good day!
Yup, and that would actually be better than believing you can be saved by your works which is the only other alternative.
It's interesting to see though that you disagree with clear scripture
How can one die if they were never alive in the first place? Only Adam and Eve actually died, the rest of us never had a spirit for it to return to God. Ecc.12:7
No? What sort of body do you think the unbeliever will be raised with? He is not getting a nice spiritual body like the believer it will be the same body of flesh he had in this life and that body most definitely burns.
That verse is not referring to a literal spirit but a mindset, a way of thinking that's why it refers to "knowing" (bolded). The human spirit is born of God Jn.3:6 The Lord does not give of Himself in such an intimate manner to unbelievers.
And God knew which choice Adam was going to make... being of the natural world.
James 1 verses 14-15; 1 John 2 verse 16 Each one is tempted when by his own evil desires he is lured away and enticed. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death. For all that is in the world- the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life- is not from the Father but from the world. .
Thanks Dr Freud. You've got me pegged. And all without spiritual discernment.
Who's your daddy?
Gen 2:19
And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20
And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
No, I became a living soul at birth just as Adam became a living soul when "awakened" in this world. I had no breath in the womb just as he had no breath in the body that was formed until the Lord God breathed his life (literally lives) into him. 2:7