Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[lrs68]

Is there somewhere in scripture that mentions this feeling? Is this same feeling present in other places where preachers have been?

When I was flown to Kuwait when Iraq and Iran became hostile under the greatest president ever Bush (1) we met some people who one day asked if we would like to see something that only a few people knew about. We accepted and they blindfolded us and took us to a destination that ended up being somewhere in a mountain, a huge cave like area. We arrived and were led to a place where they removed the blindfold. But I remember, and discussed with the other person with me also blindfolded, about as we were being led into this area this overwhelming feeling that made me both want to cry and rejoice could be felt.

Long story short, we were in the burial place of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rachel and you could feel the Holy Power of God like a heavy blanket covering you.

In all the Revivals, the Pulpits, the places where God has been and moved including multiple places in Israel that we read in the Bible, this place was the greatest place I have ever felt the presence of God at.

I just knew it was God long before I learned what the place was. You can tell God from anything else no matter where you are at.

On the opposite side it's like driving into a city, town, place and it feels evil, depressed, not free. God allows us to be able to experience situations like this through the Holy Ghost. Discernment is a most beautiful Gift from Almighty God.

 

[GWH]

It's defined as an atmosphere. You can feel the power and presence of God because God has been there several times when a Preacher was preaching under the Holy Anointing of God.

The Holy Spirit inhabits the area occupied by believers.

 

[Genez]

If we love God because He first loved us, isn't God the cause of our love for Him?

It does not say that.
Not in the Greek.

It says, we love, because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19.

You think every Christian loves God?
He is the Word. Do you?


Not every Christian ends up loving God.
They distort God into someone they personally prefer and wish to personally love.
They love "their god" in their own image.

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For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. ​

Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great ​

number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3​

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That is why you can't stand me.

 

[studier]

If we love God because He first loved us, isn't God the cause of our love for Him?

Isn't God the cause of our design and creation and ability to will and to reason and to receive and to reject and to confess and to deny and to promote and to suppress and to obey and to disobey and to submit and to rebel and...

 

[Cameron143]

It does not say that.
Not in the Greek.

It says, we love, because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19.

You think every Christian loves God?
He is the Word. Do you?


Not every Christian ends up loving God.
They distort God into someone they personally prefer and wish to personally love.
They love "their god" in their own image.

​

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. ​

Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great ​

number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3​

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That is why you can't stand me.

Wow. If you knew that I prayed for you would you still make such an assessment?

 

[studier]

Wow. If you knew that I prayed for you would you still make such an assessment?

Is your prayer that he think like you?

 

[NightTwister]

When I was flown to Kuwait when Iraq and Iran became hostile under the greatest president ever Bush (1) we met some people who one day asked if we would like to see something that only a few people knew about. We accepted and they blindfolded us and took us to a destination that ended up being somewhere in a mountain, a huge cave like area. We arrived and were led to a place where they removed the blindfold. But I remember, and discussed with the other person with me also blindfolded, about as we were being led into this area this overwhelming feeling that made me both want to cry and rejoice could be felt.

Long story short, we were in the burial place of Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rachel and you could feel the Holy Power of God like a heavy blanket covering you.

In all the Revivals, the Pulpits, the places where God has been and moved including multiple places in Israel that we read in the Bible, this place was the greatest place I have ever felt the presence of God at.

I just knew it was God long before I learned what the place was. You can tell God from anything else no matter where you are at.

On the opposite side it's like driving into a city, town, place and it feels evil, depressed, not free. God allows us to be able to experience situations like this through the Holy Ghost. Discernment is a most beautiful Gift from Almighty God.

Repeating the unanswered question: "Is there somewhere in scripture that mentions this feeling?"

 

[Cameron143]

Isn't God the cause of our design and creation and ability to will and to reason and to receive and to reject and to confess and to deny and to promote and to suppress and to obey and to disobey and to submit and to rebel and...

Sure. And man can do all those things on a natural level. He can also love on a natural level. But he can't love the way God loves apart from receiving God's love. Neither can man operate from a divine motivation until he has become a partaker of the divine nature. Until then, his actions are merely outward and for self-serving putposes.

 

[BillyBob]

If that is so, then it can be equally said for those who hate Him, it is because He first hated them.

Do you not teach "Jacob He loved but Esau He hated"?

I am not a teacher, but neither will I deny the word of God. That being said, I do not think that Esau was high on the list of God's remnant.

 

[Cameron143]

Is your prayer that he think like you?

No, like Christ.

Why the animosity?

 

[Genez]

Is there somewhere in scripture that mentions this feeling? Is this same feeling present in other places where preachers have been?

God must be the one to lead you to finding such a thing for your own self.
It won't be just a feeling.

This will be the main goal...

When you find your right pastor? (pulpit)
You will know it.

Along the way to finding your right pastor, you may find other pastors who were leading you to enable you to find him.
Others may upset you because God is moving you to where you would naturally not want to go.

You have to be ready.

False doctrine will want to draw you away from the path you should be on....

Feelings are not thoughts. Knowledge of Truth must be at its foundation.
Many become enemies of the cross because they make their emotions their god.

Here it is... Not just a few. But, many!

For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping,
that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction,
whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame—who set their mind
on earthly things. Philippians 3:18-19​

The ancients often used body parts to describe terms that we now use invented words for.
The word "belly" was used to describe emotions.

You will see these emotion driven Christians everywhere.

 

[cv5]

It does not say that.
Not in the Greek.

It says, we love, because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19.

You think every Christian loves God?
He is the Word. Do you?


Not every Christian ends up loving God.
They distort God into someone they personally prefer and wish to personally love.
They love "their god" in their own image.

​

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. ​

Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great ​

number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3​

​

That is why you can't stand me.

I put the "hissing slithery guy" (we all know who it is), the "raging clueless guy" (ditto), and "Bible tweet harpy" (same) on ignore.

Too much man, just too much. Quenching the Spirit of Truth, disrupting and misleading is their biz. And the truth is....they are good at it!

Some are just too far gone it would seem. Unteachable, no growth, no edification, committed and entrench in bogus religious dogma.

On the other hand, the sweet savor of Bible truth and pleasant aroma of the holy conduct of the legit saints here keeps me coming back.

Yes, the bickering is bitter and degrading. As for myself, I shall endeavor to restrain my baser instincts and innate desire to aahhhhmmmm "correct" error.

 

[Genez]

Wow. If you knew that I prayed for you would you still make such an assessment?

I have prayed for you as well.

 

[lrs68]

Repeating the unanswered question: "Is there somewhere in scripture that mentions this feeling?"

You could feel the Glory and Power of God in the Holy of Holies, the Ark of the Covenant, the Temple, the mountain where Moses would go to, there's other Biblical examples of places and objects you just obviously have never experienced it for yourself.

 

[cv5]

Is your prayer that he think like you?

Maybe his prayer is that WE think like him....

Thank God it will never happen....

 

[Cameron143]

I have prayed for you as well.

Always appreciated.

 

[NightTwister]

You could feel the Glory and Power of God in the Holy of Holies, the Ark of the Covenant, the Temple, the mountain where Moses would go to, there's other Biblical examples of places and objects you just obviously have never experienced it for yourself.

The Holy Spirit no longer lives in places as He did in the times before Jesus died.

It was now about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour, while the sun's light failed. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last. - - Luke 23:44-46 ESV

I'm certainly not going to base my beliefs on someone's feelings. Things aren't sacred. Not anymore. The pulpit is just a place where teaching happens, where announcements are made, etc. And to answer your question from some time ago, yes, I have stood in the pulpit.

 

[Genez]

Wow. If you knew that I prayed for you would you still make such an assessment?

If it was not done in the truth.... It means nothing real.

 

[Rufus]

FTFY!





I'm not running to anyone's rescue, Rufus. I'm clarifying that you are (cough cough) "fixing" posts submitted by others for yourself (cuz you're so "humble") ... you're pridefully not "fixing" for the one who submitted the post ... big difference ... those who are humble would recognize the difference ...
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Those who are truly humble fear the Lord and those who fear the Lord would not post lies, misinformation, misrepresentations or project their failings unto others. I'm actually doing a service with my "fixing" posts by calling attention to such errors.

 

[lrs68]

The Holy Spirit no longer lives in places as He did in the times before Jesus died.

It was now about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour, while the sun's light failed. And the curtain of the temple was torn in two. Then Jesus, calling out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit!” And having said this he breathed his last. - - Luke 23:44-46 ESV

I'm certainly not going to base my beliefs on someone's feelings. Things aren't sacred. Not anymore. The pulpit is just a place where teaching happens, where announcements are made, etc. And to answer your question from some time ago, yes, I have stood in the pulpit.

Your Verse says nothing about what is being discussed and I could care less if you believe or ever experience God for yourself. And I am certain you never will because you use Scripture incorrectly for a false premise like the devil did when tempting Jesus.