how old was Abel, how many times had they btpught sacrifices before, why and what day was it they did so?
Why God the Father considered this fruit as forbidden?
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how old was Abel, how many times had they btpught sacrifices before, why and what day was it they did so?
Isaiah 45:15
Truly, you are a God who hides Himself,
O God of Israel, the Savior.
What we are pointing out is what you said. Correct me if I'm wrong.
It should be written in the book (Holy Bible) so you will believe it.
It means if it is not written exactly how it is then it is not true.
You may correct my understanding in your post if it is wrong.
That is why I asked you to look or read when Jesus born if day time or night time. Because many people say it is night time. Would you believe on them? Or you must find it first and read exactly when Jesus born before you believe.
Then I change the question.
Did Moses reached Canaan? You may find it by reading what is exactly written so you may believe.
Thank you. I think I see what you mean now. Regarding the time of the birth of Jesus, we are not told, but regarding whether Moses reached Canaan, we are told quite clearly that he didn't. He saw the Promised Land, but God did not allow him to enter it. God said to him:
“49 “Go up this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, across from Jericho; view the land of Canaan, which I give to the children of Israel as a possession; 50 “and die on the mountain which you ascend, and be gathered to your people, just as Aaron your brother died on Mount Hor and was gathered to his people; 51 “because you trespassed against Me among the children of Israel at the waters of Meribah Kadesh, in the Wilderness of Zin, because you did not hallow Me in the midst of the children of Israel. 52 “Yet you shall see the land before you, though you shall not go there, into the land which I am giving to the children of Israel.”” (De 32:49-52 NKJV)
Yes, it is not being exactly written if Jesus was born in day time or in night time.
But what people saying that he was born in the night time is a conclusion when the 3 wise men guided by the shining star to Jesus where he was born.
Regarding Moses, it is clearly written that Moses did not reached Canaan (promised Land).
God the Father took Moses on top of the mountain and showed to Moses where Canaan is.
But God the Father never tell a lie. He promised to Moses that he will bring to Canaan.
We can't deny that God was pleased with Moses.
Therefore: God the Father fulfilled his promised to Moses. and Moses reached Canaan.
NUMBERS 14:8
8 If the Lord delight in us, then he will bring us into this land, and give it us; a land which floweth with milk and honey.
This is why Lord Jesus emphasize
Hebrews 11:1
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
I think we may now go back to the main topic in this thread.
But the star didn't guide them to where He was born. Contrary to what we see on so many Christmas cards, the wise men visited Jesus in a house. They weren't there when He was in the manger. Remember how Herod inquired of the wise men when the star had appeared. That is what led to him having all the boys 2 years old and under killed:
“Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men.” (Mt 2:16 NKJV)
So the fact that the wise men were led to the house by a star has nothing to do with the time Jesus was born.
But It is clearly stated in the bible that God did not allow Moses to enter Canaan. He died on Mount Nebo.
yes!
so, i believe He has hidden Himself in types and shadows all over the entire scripture - - treasures of knowledge of Him for us to seek out.
that's essentially why seemingly silly little things like what kind of fruit was the tree, was His appearing in the day or night, what else happened in the field of blood that Judas hanged himself in, where the garment Aachen stole came from, etc, matter
also nothing in the scripture about there being 3 wise men, heh.
that came from what we might call Christian 'fan fiction' a few hundred years later, iirc
I’m sorry you felt offended by a legitimate question; a rather basic, but important question that many Christians often get wrong according to Scripture.
Idk him or you, or where you’re coming from. Based on some of his comments, I felt compelled to ask. No harm was done!!
Anyway, I’m sure he is not a child who needs assistance. I’m sure he is capable of defending himself. Aeh!
I’m sure you can find and pull a verse out to defend your rather vague question.
I didn’t read that verse in context (that matters!); with that being said, if you read the word, He reveals Himself. Knowing Jesus is knowing God Abba.
However, it would seem you know more about conjuring up the fruit name than what is given in Scripture.
what is not hidden, has no need of being revealed. speaking of Salvation, God hid Himself in flesh, and the mystery of Godhead was revealed to some and not to others - He only took Peter, James and John to the mount where He was transfigured, revealing His glory.
in the same way He did these things, the testimony of the Salvation in Him was hidden in scripture the whole time - tho the prophets sought earnestly to find it in even their own prophesies.
Could you please give me Scripture to what you’re referring to, for all of your thoughts?
1) All 12, by that time, knew who He was— God the Son. No body knows why He chose the 3; no reason was given, so why harp on it? It’s not that important, other than the 3 witnessed it. It doesn’t affect my salvation!
2) They didn’t have the Bible 2000 yrs ago, they were taught and at the mercy of the Rabbis; I might add Jesus was angry with many of them.
3) Yes, He did hide things from supposed wise people, but not the prophets, He hid them from kings and such.
According to Gen 1:14-18 normal days are defined as when there's light,
and normal nights are defined as when it's dark. Bible readers have to take
those definitions into consideration or they'll risk getting the chronology
wrong when they go to tally the three days and three nights predicted by
Matt 12:40.
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- i didn't mean only those three know He is God manifest in the flesh, but as an example that He does not reveal everything to everyone. yet even His Deity is still hidden even from many who profess His name, zb 2 Cor 3:13-14
- the Torah and the prophets are equally the Bible. zb Luke 24:25-27
- Matthew 13:17, 1 Peter 1:10-12, Daniel 12:8
He has made us complete in Jesus, and I understand His Diety (Godhead, Trinity). He has given us what we need to know to have salvation; the NC is complete and lacks nothing.
The Bible contains the 2 testaments/ covenants, but only the NC is in effect today. The OC was our tutor to bring us to Christ.
everything in the NT is fulfilling the OT - 100% of it has antitypes in the OT and if you don't see them, you do not understand the NT.
the gospel was preached by Christ and by His disciples from the OT. it's cited something like 1,000 times either directly or in clear allusion, and those are just the simple ones. it is the Word of God and infinitely complex. on the road to Emmaeus Christ called His own disciples idiots because they didn't understand, from reading the OT alone, what Messiah would do and what would be done to Him.
if you think it's irrelevant you've missed 2/3 of scripture all this time, and have not comprehended the richness of the NT.
for example, can you preach the gospel from the ark of The Testimony?
look at Galatians 4 - - how does Paul view and understand the Torah?
Yes, it is clearly in our own understanding that Moses did not reach Canaan because it is written and understood in letter.
Lord Jesus gave this warning to Paul.
2 CORINTHIANS 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
It proves that the Holy Bible is not just like an academic books that we use in school.
Reading the bible requires the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
Holy Spirit is the good teacher.
It is not what we understand. It is the teaching of the Holy Spirit matters cause it gives life. Means it is for Eternal Life.
1 JOHN 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
It means Jesus was born night time cause the 3 wise men needs the guidance of the shining star.
We need the shine of the star during night time and not during day time.
It is understood that Jesus was born at night time.
Why Jesus born at night time.
Because the world was in darkness because it is being deceit by the Devil .
REVELATION 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And the world need Jesus because Jesus is the light of the World.
And so was Jesus exposing the people living in darkness or under the deceitful of the Devil.
That is the significance why Jesus was born at night time.
It is a different topic and perhaps in different thread on how Jesus took away those people living in darkness and what is the darkness in the eyes of God.
Let us go back with the topic of this thread.
my pastor always says,
if anyone ever begins to speak and says to you, they understand the trinity, grab your wallet, throw chairs and run!
