Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Cameron143 said:
Are you familiar at all with the fall of man? This is why he is hopeless and helpless.
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Some Pelagian heretics insist human nature did not change with the corruption of all creation.
And some of those will tell us man's will is still free as if Scripture says anywhere that Adam's
will was free. Of course that is nowhere in Scripture, but these heretics love to make up stuff
and insert it into the text as if it were actually written there. And I know some will come along
with their preposterous "gotchas" and insist I have implied Adam was a slave to sin before he sinned.
I did no such thing.
 
Rufus said:
If Christ died for the entire human race, then where in scripture is the redemptive covenant that God made with the entire human race? And where in scripture is the the gift of the Fear of the Lord promised to the entire human race? And if Christ died for all (Jn 3:16) in the distributive sense, then this means the entire human race is saved (Jn 3:17).
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Sorry buddy. I didn't see you in the boat or I would have said hi.
 
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Pelagian heretics insist man is inherently good. From within the hearts of men come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, wickedness, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, arrogance, and foolishness. Mark 7 verses 21-22 Every inclination of man's heart is evil from his youth. Genesis 8 verse 21b Who can bring out clean from unclean? No one! Job 14 verse 4 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7 verse 18
 
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People love to sit in boats and float on the ocean. There is a sense of peace and calm found there unlike any some find
anywhere else. Boating is not all work. Of course some would not know this, especially if they have never been on a boat.
Then they might mock and scoff at the idea of any two people sitting in a boat waiting to see what happens. They present
it as if it is supposed to be some kind of a joke but really it just comes out of their hatred for those who uphold Biblical truth.
Built into this pretend "joke" is the rejection of God's sovereignty, and the fact that He moves in people's lives to bring
about His desired ends. I do not know why these heretics hate God's sovereignty so much. It seems built into their idolatry.
 
HeIsHere said:
John 3:16 is enough to settle this matter.

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

God loves the world, not just part of it. The “world” never refers to the elect.

God’s love gift to the world is the vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice of His beloved Son. “... the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.”
All men can believe in Christ and be saved. The gospel is a “whosoever” call.
(Way of Life Literature)
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So, let's see...We have explicit statements from scripture that God loves the righteous (Ps 146:8), loves God-fearers (Ps 103:11, 17), loves believers (Ps 32:10) and loves those who love His Son (Jn 14:21, 23; 15:27). AND at the same time you FWers believe that God is a mentally, emotionally and spiritually sick schizophrenic since He simultaneously and equally loves those who are unrighteous, have no reverential awe of Him, have no faith in Him and who hate his Son.

Pretty sick theology you have there. Quite a gift the evil one has given you!
 
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Rufus said:
So, let's see...We have explicit statements from scripture that God loves the righteous (Ps 146:8), loves God-fearers (Ps 103:11, 17), loves believers (Ps 32:10) and loves those who love His Son (Jn 14:21, 23; 15:27). AND at the same time you FWers believe that God is a mentally, emotionally and spiritually sick schizophrenic since He simultaneously and equally loves those who are unrighteous, have no reverential awe of Him, have no faith in Him and who hate his Son.

Pretty sick theology you have there. Quite a gift the evil one has given you!
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She always has to overlook how people come to believe. Has to because she denies personal revelation. Mocks
and scoffs at it, and says God is unfair because of it. Then she will tell us she is defending God's character.
 
Cameron143 said:
Notice it doesn't say he will not, but that he cannot. It's not a matter of the will, but of ability.
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You have to watch that viper very carefully. This is what he does: He constantly makes things up as he goes. As you correctly said, he changes "cannot" into "will not".
 
Rufus said:
You have to watch that viper very carefully. This is what he does: He constantly makes things up as he goes.
As you correctly said, he changes "cannot" into "will not".
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The reason why he will not is because he cannot. That is what they deny. They claim man is able. Scripture says he is not. Then they act as if we are saying nobody can, when we are affirming the fact that God enables people so they can. But they love to misrepresent.
 
lrs68 said:
The reason this is 100% absolute fact and truth is because of the writer of the Gospel of John. We know it's both the Holy Ghost and the Apostle\Disciple John. But it's the same WORDS being used that matters. Here's the example of what I am talking about.

Jesus said in John 3 that God so loved the [(WORLD)]

The same usage for [(WORLD)] Jesus used when He said the [(WORLD)] hated me first and will hate us for His sake.

So Jesus is talking about the [(WORLD)] that HATES Him. God loves and died for the [(WORLD)] that HATES Him.

So unless the Reformed are claiming to HATE GOD then the [(WORLD)] means ALL HUMANS not just the saved ones.
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Yeah...God so loved the world soooo very much that Jesus explicitly excluded the world from his prayer in Jn 17. Apparently, Jesus wasn't a DEI advocate either!

Plus if God loves the world that hates him, then the entire God-hating world is saved (Jn 3:17).
 
cv5 said:
The natural man decides [in accordance with the dictates of his evil nature] to remain so because he refused the offer of the Spirit, Who would have provided the wisdom and understanding of God.

The text is utterly clear on the matter.
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FTFY!
 
Magenta said:
The reason why he will not is because he cannot. That is what they deny. They claim man is able. Scripture says he is not. Then they act as if we are saying nobody can, when we are affirming the fact that God enables people so they can. But they love to misrepresent.
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Evidently he believes he is Abel, but he is actually Cainnot.
 
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