Regardless of how many hacksaws, cutting torches, or keys to handcuffs you provide, it doesn't matter.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Must have been due to your whining, childish rants, embarrassing exegesis, and infantile absurdities.
At least my soteriology is Biblical!!!!
Praise God my church has not been overtaken and continues to teach traditional soteriology, like the SBC preached before stealth Calvinism was devised and implemented.
He clearly butchered the context to make it appear that the part he posted was my personal belief when I clearly said it is what you believe. You just can't stop be dishonest and support others who do the same. Just a liars club.
Yes, moving on.
Sad how this movement has gained such traction over the years, I remember when the true doctrine of salvation was preached on campuses across North America and it was personal and young people were being born again, now look where we are in our society, I blame this impersonal, non-responsible soteriology as part of the problem.
Oh well in the end it is their choice to follow a false doctrine/soteriology and they will be accountable.
Well I don't believe that, so call it even. Do you feel better now, my goodness.
You only think it is. But good on you for being okay with being a liar. You may find out what repentance is all about after all.
When did you stop mocking and scoffing at having a personal relationship with God? Has God finally revealed
Himself to you? Was it a road to Damascus affair? A burning bush? Did you get swallowed by a whale? Do tell.
Did He live up to your unBiblical expectations or did He smash your erroneous presups to smithereens?
Matthew 11 verse 27 ~ All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.
Cameron143 said:
Actually, faith is a work according to you, as you say ***it*** (FAITH) results from the choice of man. Those who recognize that faith is a product of the grace of God in salvation make no such claim but ascribe all to the activity of God.
The fact is that neither @HeIsHere , nor I nor anybody else on team volition believes in the least what you propounded in the critique that you posted.
So the liar is......you.
The fact of which was an aspect of my reply, which you failed to comprehend. Obviously.
Not to mention the patently absurd content. That just makes it all the worse.
Nobody in the universe, other than you, actually thinks that "it (FAITH) results from the choice of man."
I mean like literally no sane person the world over.
I would not be surprised to discover she did not believe in the need for repentance.
She certainly mocks the idea of personal accountability.
Of course you believe that. You choose to believe or not. Faith, to you, is up to the individual. You hear something and determine whether you will believe or not. Faith is the product of audibly hearing the gospel and deciding it's correct. No power of God to those who believe, no understanding given, no spiritual activity whatsoever.
Have they had actual spiritual experiences? It seems not according to what some have said.
The mocking and scoffing of such makes it rather evident as well.
Which when you think of it is just more denigration of God from them.
And more rejection of what is explicitly articulated in Scripture.
Actually we believe this..
Faith in Action
1:1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.
31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
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39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,
40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Cameron143 said:
Actually, faith is a work according to you, as you say ***it*** (FAITH) results from the choice of man.
As has been explained to you in the most exorbitant, inimitably comprehensive, detailed manner, we do NOT believe that.
However it is YOU that SAYS we believe that, knowing full well that we do not, which again is intentionally deceptive.
And as is your custom, you did a shell and pea, rearranged and edited your original post, in an effort to cover-up your transgression.
These, of course, are standard super-determinist operating procedures......
You actually believe some of what is in the Bible? Shocking!
And I do hope you have read at least that much.
Some of what you post lends itself to the impression that you have not read the Bible at all.
There are exceptions as to why people found favour in God, in the old t,
People can express faith without actually having it because they lack true inner conviction, also people can Go to church and pray
, an expression of faith but still doubt God is real.
The question is did people of the old t have true inner faith.
Those people exercised faith. You can't exercise faith you don't possess. None of those verses have anything to do with salvation or how they came to believe.