Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I would like to know when they think I was told to go and make disciples.
Not that I expect the truth from them...
I have never baptised anyone either.
How many people have they baptised?
Eh. They may lie about that as well.
This may be a duplicate post as I lost comm when I posted.
Anyway, I thought the post was addressed to me but probably misread it.
But you're correct, I definitely don't care about that.
These free will syncretists have abandoned the true faith.
How do I know?
Because they contradict quite a few things that Jesus said.
If not contradict, they just outright deny them.
And not just things that Jesus said. Things that have been said throughout Scripture from Genesis to Revelation,
from a plethora of Scripture writers, prophets, and apostles. Their error is wide-spread and contaminates the
whole of their theology and outlook on life. They refuse to acknowledge what the Bible plainly states,
and replace what the Bible explicitly articulates with their vain self-exalting philosophically based garbage.
They seem quite comfortable doing that.
How do I know?
Because they contradict quite a few things that Jesus said.
If not contradict, they just outright deny them.
And not just things that Jesus said. Things that have been said throughout Scripture from Genesis to Revelation,
from a plethora of Scripture writers, prophets, and apostles. Their error is wide-spread and contaminates the
whole of their theology and outlook on life. They refuse to acknowledge what the Bible plainly states,
and replace what the Bible explicitly articulates with their vain self-exalting philosophically based garbage.
They seem quite comfortable doing that.
You will understand this is a compliment but you are the outlier of the Reformed belief members so you don't shock me when I see you doing the correct thing.
Faith is a work in your view, so you contradict scripture then. Understood.
As well, all you did was list various Bible versions, and your soteriology is completely at odds with traditional non reformed understanding of the Gospel.
Fifty years ago the SBC would have shown the Calvinists/Reformed the door, but stealth Calvinists have corrupted traditional Christianity. Yes the testimonies are everywhere of those who exit these churches who have been overtaken.
Thankfully there are a few here who have not been brainwashed by this stealth Calvinism.
Thankfully there are a few here who believe what the Bible says in a plethora of verses throughout
the whole of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, instead of replacing what is explicitly articulated
with your vain self-exalting philosophically based man-made precept which you pretend is a doctrine
despite there being zero Biblical support for it. Should we call what you believe HeIsHereism? No.
That would be a slur on His holy name, which you profane.
Overgeneralizations are almost always wrong. I personally know hundreds of the reformed faith who regularly share the gospel.
More of your ego-driven self-aggrandizing misrepresentation.
Why would anyone be interesting in your bloviating?
Is it supposed to be entertainment, to see how many main and plain words you
can strip of their true meanings so they fit what you have been taught to think?
Actually, faith is a work according to you, as you say it results from the choice of man. Those who recognize that faith is a product of the grace of God in salvation make no such claim but ascribe all to the activity of God.
They can't help lying. And let us not forget that in her theology, faith is not counted as something good.
It could be she has to cling to that lie just so she can say it did not come from God like all good things.
Which is what Scripture actually proclaims. But she denies.
It becomes horrifying after a while how much Scripture gets contradicted and denied by free willers.
Agree, there is no debate, and your presentation of this should have ended the thread, but what can they do, they have to save face, and descend to the most vile attacks.
I remember when there were pastors/churches which where not infected with this nonsense soteriology and held to the traditional plan.
It is very troubling when the simple plan of salvation has become corrupted .. for the appalling wait and see lottery selection process.
Responding positively to the personal GOOD NEWS of God's love and sacrifice......nope, not possible, here are the verses I have pulled out from any context which show the door is closed to you until God activates you, because your positive response is a work even if you could do it.
I find this so disgusting.
Numbers 21:6-9 (see also John 3:14)
The LORD sent fiery serpents among the people and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. So the people came to Moses and said, “We have sinned, because we have spoken against the LORD and you; intercede with the LORD, that He may remove the serpents from us.” And Moses interceded for the people. Then the LORD said to Moses, “Make a fiery serpent, and set it on a standard; and it shall come about, that everyone who is bitten, when he looks at it, he will live.” And Moses made a bronze serpent and set it on the standard; and it came about, that if a serpent bit any man, when he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived.
Dave Hunt a great man of the correct soteriology states:
Dave Hunt:
“The healing from the poisonous snakebite was not for a select group within Israel whom God had predestined to be healed, but for ‘everyone...any man.’ The only limitation was to look in faith to the upraised serpent.
Likewise, everyone who has been bitten by ‘that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan’ (Revelation 12:9) is healed if they will but look in faith to Christ lifted up on the Cross.” (What Love is This?, pp.259-260)
Nowhere does scripture state that God gifts the initial/saving faith to His selected favorites, nope not even Ephesians 2:8.
It was posted awhile back.