Israel.

[Pilgrimshope]

Look how they react to Jesus name even if accompanied by a miracle

“be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.


Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus. And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it.


But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves, saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it. But that it spread no further among the people, let us straitly threaten them, that they speak henceforth to no man in this name. And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭4:10-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Why do religious Jews react this way to Jesus name and his gospel ?

“Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, as newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby: if so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious. To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: And he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Unto you therefore which believe he is precious:

but unto them which be disobedient, The stone which the builders disallowed, The same is made the head of the corner,
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:1-7,KJV‬‬

 

[Gideon300]

Add this verse in before what you said and i would agree

“Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children:

but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭9:6-8‬ ‭

We identify people as an Israelite because they have certain flesh and blood by thier parents .that’s not how God identifies them .

“Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. ( not his flesh but his faith ) And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. ….There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:7-9, 27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the flesh isn’t going to mean anything to god a persons faith is what counts of they are israelite or gentile

The real question relates to modern Israel. Is it or is it not of God? According to God's word, including His covenant with Abraham, Israel is God's nation. No one is saved apart from Christ. But that is not the same as Israel the nation.

And that is where the Israel haters get it wrong. God has a purpose for Israel that has never changed. And it will be realised fully, whether the disbelievers like it or not. God's will shall be done, here on earth as well as in heaven. And God's will includes literal Israel.

 

[Hakawaka]

Now then we are in agreement on this....why do you feel the way you do about today's israel?

Not meaning to speak for him. But most historic premillennialists believe that Israel is more so the people, not the state. So they believe in the end some israelites will turn to God in repentance. This has nothing to do with the state of Israel, which many see as just another worldly kingdom with its own sins. The kingdom of God comes with the coming of Christ. Not prior to Christ's coming

 

[Hakawaka]

I challenge everyone here to watch this documentary. It is a hard watch, many won't get through it. It's graphic in conversation, not that it shows nudity. There are some scenes that may be "triggering" to some and I don't use that word lightly. I hope you will watch it for yourself and make your own opinion. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could watch this and come away blaming Israel. If you have an open and honest mind you will watch this. If you don't watch it, then your comments have no bearing in the conversation. As a Christian, you should watch this and give it your time and attention. You don't have to even watch the entire video, watch half. Of those of you who do watch it, please let me know your feelings about it. Also this video was not done by a conservative, it was done by the former COO of Meta/Facebook

I cant help but think that both the documentary and the debuking of it are just propaganda from different sides. This is exactly like any other conflict, like the one between Ukraine and Russia. Both sides claim to be taking care of prisoners and doing the right thing while the opponents are just murdering civilians and they of course do no wrong.

There is a saying and it holds true: In war, the first casualty is truth.

I just thank God I am not living in any of these countries. I wait for the kingdom of God and let the kingdoms of the world do their thing, which they will continue to do until the very last day.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Not meaning to speak for him. But most historic premillennialists believe that Israel is more so the people, not the state. So they believe in the end some israelites will turn to God in repentance. This has nothing to do with the state of Israel, which many see as just another worldly kingdom with its own sins. The kingdom of God comes with the coming of Christ. Not prior to Christ's coming

You accurately described what I believe.

What I don't get is how some people think a state/nation is something different than it's people. Maybe it's part of the dehumanizing process to deligitimize Palestinians and dispossess them of their land. In other words, since they've never been a formal state/nation in the eyes of the world they have no right to the land, even though they are the land's indigenous people with roots going back multiple centuries, with some even going back to the time of Christ.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I cant help but think that both the documentary and the debuking of it are just propaganda from different sides. This is exactly like any other conflict, like the one between Ukraine and Russia. Both sides claim to be taking care of prisoners and doing the right thing while the opponents are just murdering civilians and they of course do no wrong.

There is a saying and it holds true: In war, the first casualty is truth.

I just thank God I am not living in any of these countries. I wait for the kingdom of God and let the kingdoms of the world do their thing, which they will continue to do until the very last day.

I'm curious of your rationale that equates someone's evidence-free claims with documented investigations that conclude such claims have no evidence. In other words, how is the latter propaganda? Are you assuming bias?

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The real question relates to modern Israel. Is it or is it not of God? According to God's word, including His covenant with Abraham, Israel is God's nation. No one is saved apart from Christ. But that is not the same as Israel the nation.

And that is where the Israel haters get it wrong. God has a purpose for Israel that has never changed. And it will be realised fully, whether the disbelievers like it or not. God's will shall be done, here on earth as well as in heaven. And God's will includes literal Israel.

How is it the nation of God? It's a secular country that rejects Christ. He that doesn't have Christ doesn't have God.

What you fail to realize and understand is that God's purposes will be accomplished when his literal nation, ie, people, return with him and crush under foot all worldly nations

 

[HeIsHere]

And it will be realised fully, whether the disbelievers like it or not.

Translation: God failed the first time and the Rothschild money, Lord Balfour, Scofield and Darby, Theodore Herzl etc., etc., fixed it.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I cant help but think that both the documentary and the debuking of it are just propaganda from different sides. This is exactly like any other conflict, like the one between Ukraine and Russia. Both sides claim to be taking care of prisoners and doing the right thing while the opponents are just murdering civilians and they of course do no wrong.

It's really not that simple. This talks about what took place that day. Oct 7. Do people reject the testimony of 9/11? This is the testimony of people who were there.

 

[God-fearing]

Not meaning to speak for him. But most historic premillennialists believe that Israel is more so the people, not the state. So they believe in the end some israelites will turn to God in repentance. This has nothing to do with the state of Israel, which many see as just another worldly kingdom with its own sins. The kingdom of God comes with the coming of Christ. Not prior to Christ's coming

Thank you for showing me this and he affirms this is his thoughts.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm curious of your rationale that equates someone's evidence-free claims with documented investigations that conclude such claims have no evidence. In other words, how is the latter propaganda? Are you assuming bias?

Did you watch the video?

 

[CommodoreTeach]

How is it the nation of God? It's a secular country that rejects Christ. He that doesn't have Christ doesn't have God.

What you fail to realize and understand is that God's purposes will be accomplished when his literal nation, ie, people, return with him and crush under foot all worldly nations

In recent days, one of the state of Israel's officials gets caught for crimes of pedophilia. Instead of condemning him and letting justice take it's place, the state lets their pedophile post bail and hightail it back to Israel, where he will be protected from extradition or prosecution (along with many other pedophiles who take shelter in Israel). The ADL was founded the same year Jewish pedophile and murderer Leo Frank received justice for his heinous crimes of raping and murdering 13 year-old Mary Phagan, presumably to protect similar criminals from getting what justice demands.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees despite their legitimate claim to be Jews by blood. How much moreso those who claim to be Jews (but are not), and rape and murder children? And what are these who call themselves Christians doing, by claiming such as these are the chosen of God (but Christians, who most certainly *are* the Chosen of God according to scripture, are not?!?) Absolutely insane...

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Did you watch the video?

If you had watched the video I posted you wouldn't have asked that question

 

[HeIsHere]

In recent days, one of the state of Israel's officials gets caught for crimes of pedophilia. Instead of condemning him and letting justice take it's place, the state lets their pedophile post bail and hightail it back to Israel, where he will be protected from extradition or prosecution (along with many other pedophiles who take shelter in Israel). The ADL was founded the same year Jewish pedophile and murderer Leo Frank received justice for his heinous crimes of raping and murdering 13 year-old Mary Phagan, presumably to protect similar criminals from getting what justice demands.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees despite their legitimate claim to be Jews by blood. How much more so those who claim to be Jews (but are not), and rape and murder children? And what are these who call themselves Christians doing, by claiming such as these are the chosen of God (but Christians, who most certainly *are* the Chosen of God according to scripture, are not?!?)
Absolutely insane...

Oh, but they are sinners like everyone else.
Talk about minimizing over and over again on here.

It is insane and shameful.

 

[CommodoreTeach]

Oh, but they are sinners like everyone else.
Talk about minimizing over and over again on here.

It is insane and shameful.

But we're Jew-haters for mentioning it. And saying that these most certainly are not the chosen people of God. Despite all the scriptural proof.

The Zionists are fast running out of excuses.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

In recent days, one of the state of Israel's officials gets caught for crimes of pedophilia. Instead of condemning him and letting justice take it's place, the state lets their pedophile post bail and hightail it back to Israel, where he will be protected from extradition or prosecution (along with many other pedophiles who take shelter in Israel). The ADL was founded the same year Jewish pedophile and murderer Leo Frank received justice for his heinous crimes of raping and murdering 13 year-old Mary Phagan, presumably to protect similar criminals from getting what justice demands.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees despite their legitimate claim to be Jews by blood. How much moreso those who claim to be Jews (but are not), and rape and murder children? And what are these who call themselves Christians doing, by claiming such as these are the chosen of God (but Christians, who most certainly *are* the Chosen of God according to scripture, are not?!?) Absolutely insane...

https://www.atlantamagazine.com/new...ars-later-we-might-finally-find-out-for-sure/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Frank

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Leo-Frank

https://www.history.com/articles/leo-frank-lynching

The truth matters.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

If you had watched the video I posted you wouldn't have asked that question

Your video is false. If you're not willing to watch the video there is no reason to talk about it.

 

[HeIsHere]

In recent days, one of the state of Israel's officials gets caught for crimes of pedophilia. Instead of condemning him and letting justice take it's place, the state lets their pedophile post bail and hightail it back to Israel, where he will be protected from extradition or prosecution (along with many other pedophiles who take shelter in Israel). The ADL was founded the same year Jewish pedophile and murderer Leo Frank received justice for his heinous crimes of raping and murdering 13 year-old Mary Phagan, presumably to protect similar criminals from getting what justice demands.

Jesus condemned the Pharisees despite their legitimate claim to be Jews by blood. How much moreso those who claim to be Jews (but are not), and rape and murder children? And what are these who call themselves Christians doing, by claiming such as these are the chosen of God (but Christians, who most certainly *are* the Chosen of God according to scripture, are not?!?) Absolutely insane...

The court documents make it clear he was guilty, lots of cover up.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The court documents make it clear he was guilty, lots of cover up.

The Attorney General for the state he was caught, who refused to prosecute him, is an Israeli.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The real question relates to modern Israel. Is it or is it not of God? According to God's word, including His covenant with Abraham, Israel is God's nation. No one is saved apart from Christ. But that is not the same as Israel the nation.

And that is where the Israel haters get it wrong. God has a purpose for Israel that has never changed. And it will be realised fully, whether the disbelievers like it or not. God's will shall be done, here on earth as well as in heaven. And God's will includes literal Israel.

Yeah all nations includes all nations any israelite can be saved if they repent of thier religion and accept Jesus and the gospel like any gentile .