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Itttt happens sometimes round here[/QUOTE]
My screen has a dark background with white letters to make it easy on the eyes, but links are dark blue so I really have to make an effort sometimes to be able to read them
Not worth my time, if you were truly interested you would do the research just like I have done
Yeah that is right.
He stood on the Mt of Olives many times during his first advent. Says nothing about that happening at his return. He may indeed return there, but the splitting of the mountain so people can flee through it is pure myth. It's a tradition that mirrors Moses splitting the Red Sea for Israel to flee through. The Masoretes only had to change the pronunciation of one word that occurs 3 times in that verse to change "blocked up" to "you shall flee" in order to incorporate that tradition into the Masoretic Text
Missy Lindsey Graham is such a putz. It's because of neocon warmongers like him that God is going to pull the plug on America and make it reap what it has sown
As well, if you are really a truth seeker you would not be going to the people who are just going to confirm your bias.
That is not truth seeking.
Torment is a synonym for torture in our modern English language today. However I see it used in a context of how Believers were executed during the Dark Ages as described in the book, Trail of Blood, that I can't give away.
The men were not using methods like the American soldiers and contractors used against those at the Guantanamo Bay torture prison.
God's two witnesses preached hard for 3 and a half years.
When they were attacked, the witnesses torched them in self defense. Their judgements were like those prayed for and pronounced by Moses and Elijah.
Those were part of the torments upon Christ rejectors.
I like the translation I read in my Traditional Text. It certainly rings true.
No answer. I have heard some preterist interpretations but I just don't believe it. It is so far fetched. You would never come up with these esoteric hidden knowledge interpretations by just reading the Bible for yourself. You need a man to tell you what it means, there needs to be some preterist pope or someone to guide in that path. That is what you call "research" and it breeds this bitchy attitude that looks down on regular Christians who just believe and read their Bible.
You are the enlightened ones who have transcended to the level where everything in the Bible has already happened, no matter how much you have to ignore the plain reading of the text. The Bible uses symbolism and apocalyptic language, but language has to have atleast some meaning
Symbols have meaning. If you claim a mountain symbolizes a kingdom, you can do that with the Bible. If you claim a horn means a king, you can do that. If you are trying to claim nations coming to keep the feast of tabernacles is symbolic, you have to explain what is it symbolic of? And the reason I don't buy the preterist explanation is because the Bible doesn't give me that interpretation for that symbol. There are so many fine details in that prophecy, it just simply cannot be explained away no matter how hard you try and twist it to fit your false doctrine.
The Bible explains its symbols many times and that is the symbolism I believe. Not whatever men invented. You talk down on dispensationalists without realizing your eschatology is really new as well. Completely unheard of in the early church. Everyone was a futurist up until Augustine, and even he believed the book of Revelation is to be fulfilled in the future, despite being amillennial.
I am not a dispensationalist, but they are actually taking the Bible seriously and I can discuss the Bible with them. With preterists there is nothing to discuss, because they are outside of Christianity, outside of the promise of the resurrection and are corrupting people's faith because they themselves lack the faith in the word of God.
I hope you repent but since its not worth your time, I will not waste mine any longer either and put you to the ignore list.
Zechariah didn't write chapters; he wrote visions. Chapters are someone else's invention. Parts of Zechariah 14 have been fulfilled and some parts haven't
It's not...God always returns to the place where it all started. As israel has also done. And reading the letters to the 7 churches Jesus says return to your first love...him. who was sentenced to death in Jerusalem. Rejected in Jerusalem. Wept over Jerusalem.
What people miss is that the book of revelation can actually be seen as Genesis in reverse.
The saved thief on the cross is a simple message to us all. With nothing to offer, no baptism recorded, no repentance heard or seen
He simply asked that Jesus remember him.....Jesus reply by offering paradise which points back to the garden.
Also showing by him and him alone only can we enter in.
I know the chapters are manmade. But I am glad to see you believe in a future second coming
It's symbolic of the eternal rest in Christ, which Zechariah had little concept of, so everything is described in terms of carnal realities he knew. Frankly, logistically it would be impossible for all of the world to come to Jerusalem to celebrate a week-long festival, so the reasonable interpretation is that Zechariah's carnal description is actually describing a spiritual reality..
How did God bring us and everything into existence?by speaking it through his word.
Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
How did he reconcile you onto himself?Through the blood of his cross! Through his word!We call it the Bible.
Think about it like a coder.A coder will write a line of code and it will "manifest" outworldly.
So it is with God when he spoke the Word and created us in Genesis.
Our DNA is literally the word of God.
A genetic code of the Bible,which manifested outworldly and we became living words in the image of God!.
All this really blew my mind when God revealed this to me.If he wasn't showing me things before that,in no way would I have been able to take this to heart.But I believed no questions asked.In fact it was unbelievable, and so amazing how God did it and created all things.
satan doesn't stand a chance.He has to work within Gods creation cause he can't create himself then he was defeated on the cross.He had no shot,zero.
Doesn't have to be every single person but representative of those nations.
You just made that symbol up. That is my problem. The sabbath rest is spoken of as a symbol for our rest in Christ. But where does it say that about the feast of tabernacles? No where.
If you are for some reason forced to reject what it plainly teaches: it could be a symbol of the God dwelling with His people. I just don't see why it has to be symbolized. Zero reason.
Could be representatives from every nation.
Tabernacles was a festival celebrating the cessation of the year's physical labors and indulging in the fruits of their efforts. It is the sabbath of festivals because it is the completion and perfection of Christ's work in his people. Its fulfillment will be our celebrating the end of our toils in resurrected, incorruptible bodies and receivng the rewards for our labors from Christ. So I don't think calling it an eternal rest is just making it up.
Fine by me you always go off on some tangent never really addressing anything posted.
If you do not use correct hermeneutics then scripture is a mess.
This argument that symbolism explains things away is ridiculous, symbolism is representing reality using descriptive, figurative language.
Typical emotional response. More tiring is the attempt to trap people with some loaded question.
Like I stated, I will go with the words of Jesus, very clear... "YOU" 24 times in the Matthew 24.
You deny His words not me.
But clearly revelation describes it as a physical reality also.
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