@Shoshie I hope you know that this is untrue. The land belongs to the Jews historically and Biblically. Archaeology proves their presence in the land for 3000 yrs. Then they bought the land back again in 48 from absentee landowners at an inflated price.
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@Shoshie I hope you know that this is untrue. The land belongs to the Jews historically and Biblically. Archaeology proves their presence in the land for 3000 yrs. Then they bought the land back again in 48 from absentee landowners at an inflated price.
They were absentee because they fled the country to escape the war and were not allowed to return
It is an half truth (which is not truth) to state they bought the land back.
@Shoshie Genesis 12:3 KJV: "And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed." This isn't virtue signaling. I believe you agree.
They sold the land back to the Jews. The place was desolate for years. The Jews got the worst part of the land but have made it flourish again.
Palestinians fled because they didn't want to be killed and were not allowed to return to their homes. That's theft.
Naw that’s the same thing the other side does. It was bad but ….
at he truth is both sides of that conflict have done horrible things to the other . That’s at least my perception i remeber stuff from the sixties foreward
neither side is the valiant side or morally high side in my view
again to be clear that’s only my perception and view and you see also free to have and support your own . Not an attempt to argue with ya
Since some want to express there opinions on the middle east here is my take.
According to my findings there are approximately 317 millon Arab Muslims in the middle east.
World wide there are approximately 2 billion.
There are 7.2 million jews in the middle east. World wide approximately 15.7 million.
Now if you were a betting person who would you place your money on? Seriously.
Myself I would leave the sand box in a hurry.
Because of the Abraham accords some of the Arab countries recognize israel as the rightful inhabitants of the land. Wonder why?
The united states has always been a friend to Israel and that is known throughout the middle east.
The 2 state solution has been tried and failed. Palestinians given gaza and financial support from many sources to build up there now own land. How did they spend it? We'll we will elect a terrorist organization as our government let them invest in what right and important. This didn't just happen overnight. For years a infrastructure was being built to overtake and destroy there neighbors Israel.
What a great investment. We have the numbers to do it we will win.
Brings us up to Oct 7th. A well thought out attack that was rehearsed time and time again yrs previously. With daily bombings and conflicts studying the response of Israel's defence. All set to take out Israel except for one thing a huge conflict. There hopes of fellow Muslims to join the fight didn't happen. Hence the Abraham accords. Division in the Muslim community. Well have to save face some how let's call in other terrorist organizations. Hezbela, hoothis, how ever you spell it
. Anyways now most of the Palestinians see that there agenda is crushed but hamas wants to be that powerful ruling power over the middle east including over there own.
You see now the rising of other terrorist organizations over throwing there own people as well as Christians and druzes and so on.
Part 2 of the war. Sociology 101 convince the western world Israel's friend that they are the blame and that israel is evil.
Takeout Israel back up and there middle east influence. Cause diversity in there land and let's start in Europe also.
Well here we are even the church is divided in its opinion on today's events so sad
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According to my findings there are approximately 317 millon Arab Muslims in the middle east.
World wide there are approximately 2 billion.
There are 7.2 million jews in the middle east. World wide approximately 15.7 million.
Now if you were a betting person who would you place your money on? Seriously.
Myself I would leave the sand box in a hurry.
Because of the Abraham accords some of the Arab countries recognize israel as the rightful inhabitants of the land. Wonder why?
The united states has always been a friend to Israel and that is known throughout the middle east.
The 2 state solution has been tried and failed. Palestinians given gaza and financial support from many sources to build up there now own land. How did they spend it? We'll we will elect a terrorist organization as our government let them invest in what right and important. This didn't just happen overnight. For years a infrastructure was being built to overtake and destroy there neighbors Israel.
What a great investment. We have the numbers to do it we will win.
Brings us up to Oct 7th. A well thought out attack that was rehearsed time and time again yrs previously. With daily bombings and conflicts studying the response of Israel's defence. All set to take out Israel except for one thing a huge conflict. There hopes of fellow Muslims to join the fight didn't happen. Hence the Abraham accords. Division in the Muslim community. Well have to save face some how let's call in other terrorist organizations. Hezbela, hoothis, how ever you spell it
. Anyways now most of the Palestinians see that there agenda is crushed but hamas wants to be that powerful ruling power over the middle east including over there own. You see now the rising of other terrorist organizations over throwing there own people as well as Christians and druzes and so on.
Part 2 of the war. Sociology 101 convince the western world Israel's friend that they are the blame and that israel is evil.
Takeout Israel back up and there middle east influence. Cause diversity in there land and let's start in Europe also.
Well here we are even the church is divided in its opinion on today's events so sad
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The IDF employed the Hannibal directive.
Evidence their own helicopters torched their own civilians.
As well they were warned of the attack days in-advance.
As you know you will just go round in circles, some cannot handle the truth. Just a friendly fyi.
Agreed 100%
And this whole myth of the having the worst land so out of context.
Yeah my view is that both sides are the bad guy depending on the event . I know most choose a side one is moral and right the other is evil and wrong ….. I think it’s both sides
Right, but the Arabs in Gaza won't. From the river to the sea means ACTUAL genocide. A two state solution won't work because they don't believe Israel has a right to exist, in their own homeland.
Because, among other things, they are the only democracy in the ME.
The Arabs were offered land, the best part of it, and turned it down. Israel took it and look what they have done with that desert land! Every single time Israel has reached out in peace, the Arabs have smacked back and refused to even agree Israel has a right to exist. Clinton said they were impossible to please. And surrounding countries refuse to let them in, their own Arab brothers, that ought to tell you something about them.
Brings us up to Oct 7th. A well thought out attack that was rehearsed time and time again yrs previously. With daily bombings and conflicts studying the response of Israel's defence. All set to take out Israel except for one thing a huge conflict. There hopes of fellow Muslims to join the fight didn't happen. Hence the Abraham accords. Division in the Muslim community. Well have to save face some how let's call in other terrorist organizations. Hezbela, hoothis, how ever you spell it
You see now the rising of other terrorist organizations over throwing there own people as well as Christians and druzes and so on.
Part 2 of the war. Sociology 101 convince the western world Israel's friend that they are the blame and that israel is evil.
Takeout Israel back up and there middle east influence. Cause diversity in there land and let's start in Europe also.
Well here we are even the church is divided in its opinion on today's events so sad
The thing is, the Jews that were attacked were the liberal Jews. They were trying to show, or really prove to themselves, that Palestinians were peaceful and they could all just get along together. That didn't go well, for the Jews.
I'm not justifying what Hamas did, but the reports of what they did are grossly overexagerated. Like I said, they didn't have the weapons to melt cars and incinerate their occupants to charcoal, which is what pictures show happened.
Well here's the issue. Israel is the only democracy in the ME. They are Americas ally, the only one in the ME. Hamas are designated terrorists by America. Hamas/Palestinians believe Israel has no right to even exist. And once again, here are some things you're standing behind if you think Hamas isn't that bad.
1. Palestine has no domestic violence legislation.
2. Marital rape is not criminalized
3. Sexual harassment is not criminalized by the Labour Code.
4. There is no legal prohibition of FGM
5. Palestine does not have comprehensive anti-trafficking legislation.
6. Laws allowing mitigation of penalties for ‘honour’ crimes were repealed in 2011 and 2018 in the West Bank. However, the government in Gaza has not applied the reforms.
I certainly don't support homosexuality. But I doubt these activists know the following fact.
Homosexual conduct between consenting adults is criminalized by the Criminal Code of 1936 in Gaza, with a penalty of up to ten years of imprisonment.
7. Marriage (is) 15 years for girls and 16 years for boys in the West Bank, and 17 years for girls and 18 for boys in the Gaza Strip. The ages can be lower if a judge allows it (with a guardian’s approval in the case of the girl).
8. Fathers are the sole guardians of children.
9. After divorce the mother has custody up to a certain age, but automatically loses custody of her children if she remarries
10. Muslim women require consent of a wali (male guardian) to marry.
11. Polygamy is permitted, for the male of course.
12. Women have a right to inheritance, but in many cases receive less than men. Daughters receive half the share that sons receive.
It doesn't matter what you call them. They are human beings who fled their homes to avoid being killed and were not allowed to return to them when the war was over. Theft
Yeah lol what I was saying is israel does terrible things to them just like they do terrible things to israel
i wasn’t trying to debate religions between Judaism and Islam . I was saying israel does terrible things that are immoral and evil to them just like they do those same things to israel .
repaying evil for evil is not morally high
again im not trying to debate Islamic religion or Judaism I’m talking about the evil actions both sides take and then try to justify like many of thier supporters do .
oct7 was horrible a slaughter of innocents and it wasn’t an “accident tbat they didint know about “ they purposely slaughtered families and purposely tooo hindreds of hostages many who have died .
and now they have decimated an entire small country and killed tens of thousands of people for retribution. What they are doing now is also horrible and not moral or right and there’s not a justification for it
at some point they’ll be pressured by the world to stop and then later again Hamas will do something like oct 7 and Israel wiol then attack again it’s just a cycle the morality is long gone they’re just reacting st this point to the evil the other side does
i don’t see a moral side in it but that’s only My opinion you don’t have to agree I’m alright with that
It doesn’t matter what you calllthen they are the ancestors of the people who were slaughtered by the Zionist movement in order to put Jews back in Israel as the majority.
human beings are human beings god made every one of them and every life that’s taken will be recompensed
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