Yes and I cannot wait until that day, until then we waitit's our Lord, not us, Who will wipe away every tear
Two Natures???
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the deeper i look into myself and the more i understand, the more and more i find shortcoming and failure, the humber i am made, and the more i recognize my absolute need for Christ every second
the only way i can imagine someone thinking they have no sin is that they do not examine their lives at all, or they really do not have a clue what sin and righteousness are
You know I actually never considered that but isn't dying to these fleshly desires the same thing as dying to ones self?
one would have to become completely ignorant of themselves in order to think they are without faultthe deeper i look into myself and the more i understand, the more and more i find shortcoming and failure, the humber i am made, and the more i recognize my absolute need for Christ every second
the only way i can imagine someone thinking they have no sin is that they do not examine their lives at all, or they really do not have a clue what sin and righteousness are
“Your thoughts with appropriate Scripture”?
What are you, like a teacher, and we’re the students, and if we don’t answer with appropriate scripture, you won’t approve us? Stup-d.
I am not sure it is stupid in fact we are to use scripture for this very thing the issue is not many scriptures speak on this matter, of course I could be wrong but how many verses can we use to prove anything about two natures?
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I believe it is very important to instruct neophytes as soon as possible that
the supernatural procedure spoken of by the Lord at John 3:3-8, and the
procedure spoken of by Paul at Col 2:11, doesn't transform folks into Christians
incapable of sin; at least not in this life anyway.
● 1John 1:5-10 . .This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have
fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the
truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship
with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
. . If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in
us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins
and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we
make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
FAQ: If Jesus' crucifixion-- as it's presented at Col 2:10-14 --made it possible for
Christians to be once and for all completely forgiven of every sin they committed
in the past, every sin they are committing now, and every sin they will commit
in the future, then what's the point of 1John 1:5-10?
REPLY: Fellowship.
The thing is: God would like to partner up with His son's followers and give them
a place to their advantage in His endeavors. However, the supreme being prefers
the company of folks with clean feet as opposed to those whose feet are not.
(cf. John 13:3-8)
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I believe it is very important to instruct neophytes as soon as possible that
the supernatural procedure spoken of by the Lord at John 3:3-8, and the
procedure spoken of by Paul at Col 2:11, doesn't transform folks into Christians
incapable of sin; at least not in this life anyway.
● 1John 1:5-10 . .This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have
fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the
truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship
with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
. . If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in
us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins
and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we
make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
FAQ: If Jesus' crucifixion-- as it's presented at Col 2:10-14 --made it possible for
Christians to be once and for all completely forgiven of every sin they committed
in the past, every sin they are committing now, and every sin they will commit
in the future, then what's the point of 1John 1:5-10?
REPLY: Fellowship.
The thing is: God would like to partner up with His son's followers and give them
a place to their advantage in His endeavors. However, the supreme being prefers
the company of folks with clean feet as opposed to those whose feet are not.
(cf. John 13:3-8)
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But who among us can even say our feet are clean? I certainly cannot and anyone who can say this must be a better person than me because try as I might the only thing I learned about myself trying to never sin is how sinful I really am.
It is funny in a way because the more I seek righteousness the more I find that I am not righteous
Find some privacy; anyplace will do. Cover your face with your hands; it will
give you a sense of connection. Then, under your breath, or out loud, tell God
exactly what you said. And don't be reticent about it; be as forthright, candid,
and as honest as you possibly can.
"Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has gone through the
heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For
we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our
weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as
we are-- yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with
confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our
time of need." (Heb 4:14-16)
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Scripture also doesn't say that animals know God, wait for Him, etc. However, it seems logical IMO to assume that the all-loving God would create the best possible world or one in which the greatest percentage of persons may attain ultimate joy (1Tim. 2:3-4, 2Pet. 3:9). God may have created all possible kinds of worlds simultaneously: the world of dead matter, the world of living plants, the world of intelligent animals, and the world of morally accountable souls/humans.
Yes ive seen posts here about how they are past sinning. Its all nonsense or self delusian.
yes it does.
Job 12:7-10
But now ask the beasts, and they will teach you; And the birds of the air, and they will tell you; Or speak to the earth, and it will teach you; And the fish of the sea will explain to you. Who among all these does not know That the hand of the LORD has done this, In whose hand [is] the life of every living thing, And the breath of all mankind?
Psalms 104:27-28
These all wait for You, That You may give [them] their food in due season. [What] You give them they gather in; You open Your hand, they are filled with good.
and fittingly, it also says men do not.
it may seem good to your human logic that you exalt yourself above cattle and that most will be saved, but that is not what Scripture says.
it says we are nothing more than beasts, but less worthy than they - every bird knows Him, but the vast majority of men do not.
and that few are chosen, but wide is the gate leading to destruction.
the animals are living souls, just like us, but without sin