WOF vs Hermeneutics

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I don't think that's possible, as I am of the former crowd in post #14 for coming to a saving faith. But, truly, who can possibly claim 100% of anything. As ''newborn babes'', God the Father watches the hearts of those intent on proof out of envy or some such at worst, or, those still content to ''receive the sincere (pure) milk of the word''.

So, you came to have 100% faith by reading 2Tim.3:16?
 
Jesus worked miracles to show He is Messiah, but after Pentecost miracles faded and were superseded
by teachings that Christians should do good works, thereby manifesting the fruit of the Christ's HS.
Hence the skepticism toward charlatans claiming to work miracles today.
So, is this where we decide those invitations of faith as ''small as a mustard seed'' where designated to the original twelve? How is it found in peace, that ''these signs shall follow them that believe'' to the twelve only?
 
So, is this where we decide those invitations of faith as ''small as a mustard seed'' where designated to the original twelve? How is it found in peace, that ''these signs shall follow them that believe'' to the twelve only?

It is found/decided in the epistles Jesus inspired Paul to write, that the only thing that matters is faith manifested/signifed by love..
(Matt. 22:37-40 & John 13:34-35 harmonized with Gal. 5:6 & 22-23)
 
Would love to continue to address this spirit of disparage among cross-bearers but the site isn't treating me well today (connect/disconnect.
 
Jesus worked miracles to show He is Messiah, but after Pentecost miracles faded and were superseded
by teachings that Christians should do good works, thereby manifesting the fruit of the Christ's HS.
Hence the skepticism toward charlatans claiming to work miracles today.

The bible would have never talked about the gift given to us had it not been necessary. Also Why does it say if you have a problem seek the elders in the church and have them pray over you? James 5:14 If the gifts are less it not because of God but of faith that is lacking. Also People that have these gifts would never boast in them.
 
Could it be said that since Jesus is the master of the faith, that its okay?

There are plenty of 'I do this one thing at church and thats all you do' type of indoctrination. It seems to me that this is it's effect.

It seems that a person can learn from others. But the actual sustaiNing and development of understanding only happens once a person learns the scriptures well and applies it to their life.

Then there are issues of timing and things like general travel plans: can I go to Asia or is the Spirit forbidding me? Is it time to go or should we stay in Jerusalem. Who should I marry and what is my calling? All these things and more are delivered by the Spirit to the believer (to those who believe).

The Bible won't give specific instruction about these things but it provides a solid testimony that specific direction from the Spirit is part of the life of a believer.
 
The bible would have never talked about the gift given to us had it not been necessary. Also Why does it say if you have a problem seek the elders in the church and have them pray over you? James 5:14 If the gifts are less it not because of God but of faith that is lacking. Also People that have these gifts would never boast in them.

I see you disagree with my explanation regarding why the miraculous abilities were given and why they waned due to God's will,
and I disagree with your explanation regarding why they are not manifested today due to man's lack of faith. Oh well, at least we agree regarding the Gospel (stated below), right?

The normative way of stating the kerygma/GRFS in the NT is “Accept Christ Jesus as Lord” (as in 2Cor. 4:5 & Col. 2:6). The main points of Christian orthodoxy implicit in this statement can be explained or elaborated as follows:
  1. There is a/one all-loving and just Lord or God (Deut. 6:4, John 3:16, 2Thes. 1:6), who is both able (2Tim. 1:12) and willing (1Tim. 2:3-4, Ezek. 33:11) to provide all morally accountable human beings salvation or heaven—a wonderful life full of love, joy and peace forever.
  2. Human beings are selfish or sinful (Rom. 3:23, 2Tim. 3:2-4, Col. 3:5), miserable (Gal. 5:19-21), and hopeless (Eph. 2:12) or hell-bound at the judgment (Matt. 23:33 & 25:46) when they reject God’s salvation (John 3:18, Rom. 2:5-11).
  3. Jesus is God’s Messiah/Christ and incarnate Son, the way that God has chosen (John 3:16, Acts 16:30-31, Phil. 2:9-11) of providing salvation by means of his atoning death on the cross for the payment of the penalty for the sins of humanity (Rom. 3:22-25 & 5:9-11), followed by his resurrection to reign in heaven (1Cor. 15:14-28).
  4. Thus, every person who hears the NT Gospel needs to repent and accept God’s justification in Jesus as Christ/Messiah the Lord or Supreme Commander (Luke 2:11, John 14:6, Acts 16:31), which means trying to obey His commandment to love one another (Matt. 22:37-40, John 13:35, Rom. 13:9)—forever (Matt. 10:22, Psa. 113:2).
  5. Then God’s Holy Spirit will establish a saving relationship with those who freely accept/love Him (Rev. 3:20) that will eventually achieve heaven when by means of persevering in learning Truth/God’s Word/sanctification everyone cooperates fully with His will (John 14:6, 17&26, Rom. 8:6-17, Gal. 6:7-9, Eph. 1:13-14, Heb. 10:36, 12:1, Jam. 1:2-4).
 
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
17 Elias (Elijah) was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit. James 5:14-18

The Bible says to go to the elders in the church because they have lived in faith longer following Christ and are less likely to be like Peter who faltered and fell into the water. People who have gifts yet boast not people that trust in the Lord and suffered for his glory.

28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?”Matthew 14:28-31
 
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
17 Elias (Elijah) was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.
18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth brought forth her fruit. James 5:14-18

The Bible says to go to the elders in the church because they have lived in faith longer following Christ and are less likely to be like Peter who faltered and fell into the water. People who have gifts yet boast not people that trust in the Lord and suffered for his glory.

28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?”Matthew 14:28-31

Well, when I was deathly ill with Covid-19 I praised God for gifting me with a doctor who prescribed
Ivermectin and a mono-clonal antibodies injection, after which I felt healed within hours.
Ditto when my wife caught it from me. PTL!
 
Well, when I was deathly ill with Covid-19 I praised God for gifting me with a doctor who prescribed
Ivermectin and a mono-clonal antibodies injection, after which I felt healed within hours.
Ditto when my wife caught it from me. PTL!

It good that you and your wife survived GWH
 
Though I've never healed anyone or cast out demons there are people that have. Gifts are measured out to who God wills we cant choose the gift we are given.
Matthew 24:4-5
The word translated Christ in verse 5 come from a Greek word meaning to be anointed, gives special gifts.
Jesus serely knew what was to happen and warned all to take heed.
 
Matthew 24:4-5
The word translated Christ in verse 5 come from a Greek word meaning to be anointed, gives special gifts.
Jesus serely knew what was to happen and warned all to take heed.

To dismiss the work of God among us simply because a few counterfeit is a mistake. The failings of a handful ought not blind us to the boundless possibilities that can happen when we walk with our Father. For with Him, nothing is beyond hope. It is best to distance yourself from cynicism, for in the company of our Father, all things are possible.
 
I also missed my giving the impression I somehow missed the boat? How could we possibly have acheived spiritual thought-life without the milk and meat of the Word/Christ?


You are also missing where I never said you did.