Is Cannabis sinful if it helps focus?

[candycane7]

And the truth is chemical dependency of THC has consequences due to its debilitating effects. It is a dangerous substance with huge risks that far excede a Covid-19 mRNA vaccine.

I cannot agree with such a generalization. What about all the talk about turbo cancer and heart attacks and strokes?

On youtube there are TONS of videos from MDs who talk about the long term side effects of the vaccine.

How harmful the vaccine truly is will (if at all) only be known in the future, but this will probably also be suppressed.

I'd rather smoke weed all day than get the covid shot from hell.

And I'm not addicted to cannabis. I've been using med.cannabis for years now.

Maybe you can become addicted to it, but you can also become addicted to many other things.

If the person using it is simply stupid and irresponsible then such a person can harm herself in many other way, too.

It all comes down to wether you're responsible or not.

 

[candycane7]

If I had gotten vaxxed I'd be REALLY scared. There are SO many specialists who have been warning of the mrna-vaccines

since the beginning who were attacked and who got into trouble. i am glad i listened to them.

it's absolutely impossible to even make such a statement and say the vaccine is safer than cannabis. this is downright ridiculous.

how many people have died from cannabis? how many people have died short time after being vaxxed?

there is no doubt in my mind that the vaccine isn't harmless, like it was advertised. i still remember these clowns

"oh it's totally harmless, it's out of your system within hours" LOOOOL!

they were either lying or totally ignorant.

i have seen biopsy pics where they showed lung tissue and said that there are spike proteins in body tissues where they

absolutely should not be! and these were specialists. end of story.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

So I'm curious if it feels like Cannabis helps me focus more and put me in a state where i can safely say i read the bible and can understand it a bit better while on the stuff.. Is it still considered sinful if it can help someone like me do that?
Usually I'm very autistic and my mind tends to get bored rather easy and starts to wander.. but with cannabis it helps me focus and during that time I usually am focus on the bible.

You can also try asking the Holy Spirit to help you focus. No drugs needed, no need to spend money to buy drugs or paraphernalia for it, and He's powerful to help you focus. Sometimes my mind wanders too when I'm doing Bible study!

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

You can also try asking the Holy Spirit to help you focus. No drugs needed, no need to spend money to buy drugs or paraphernalia for it, and He's powerful to help you focus. Sometimes my mind wanders too when I'm doing Bible study!

Exactly!
I don't know if @SillyMari is still reading her thread, but I was going to mention that there are many ways to improve focus.
I understand and empathize with her special challenge. It would be of benefit to learn how to strengthen the area she struggles with.
Getting high to be able to get into the zone for reading is just medicating the symptom rather than correcting the problem.

 

[shittim]

Surprising to me the number of my brothers and sisters in Christ who mske use of this.
I believe He knows the very troubling times now and I know repeatedly in the NT it mentions how He was moved with compassion, and we know He is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
blessings

 

[hornetguy]

medicating the symptom rather than correcting the problem.

You do realize, don't you, that not all "problems" can simply be corrected, right? Many times, medication is the only solution for any realistic relief.
I would prefer "fixing" a problem, as well, but it is not always an option.

 

[candycane7]

You can also try asking the Holy Spirit to help you focus. No drugs needed, no need to spend money to buy drugs or paraphernalia for it, and He's powerful to help you focus. Sometimes my mind wanders too when I'm doing Bible study!

According to this logic nobody needs any medicine for anything. Then you just ask God for help and everything's fine.

Wandering mind is not really the same as someone who has real mental issues. Just saying.

 

[shittim]

According to this logic nobody needs any medicine for anything. Then you just ask God for help and everything's fine.

Wandering mind is not really the same as someone who has real mental issues. Just saying.

Not at all is this as you describe, it is as He said it would be in these days, His Own would do greater works than He while most would have an outward form denying the power.
I am aware that God works through medical people as well, and loves and cares for them. Sickness and disease must be from the enemy as they do not line with Galatians 5-22&23
Medicine seems to be something He allows out of His compassion for us, it was not His first plan for us.
blessings

 

[candycane7]

Not at all is this as you describe, it is as He said it would be in these days, His Own would do greater works than He while most would have an outward form denying the power.

I'd also rather be healed and fully functionable.

 

[shittim]

saw this and thought of this thread, are the dolphins addicts?

 

[Edward429451]

Surprising to me the number of my brothers and sisters in Christ who mske use of this.
I believe He knows the very troubling times now and I know repeatedly in the NT it mentions how He was moved with compassion, and we know He is the same, yesterday, today and forever.
blessings

I'm not exactly happy abut it.I tried to set it down two times. Last time it almost killed me.

At this point I'm disabled/retired drawing my SS money. My kids are grown, the wife jumped ship, and I live alone now. I have to be able to drive. I have no one to run my errands for me, go to the grocery store or wherever. I have to drive. Praise the Lord I have a good truck!

The story goes, I was about 5 years old and jumping on the bed. I flew off of it the wrong way and hit my head real hard on the baseboard and raised an egg on it. Shortly thereafter I started having grand mal seizures and I have had seizures off and on for all my life since then. I thought I grew out of it because I went 18 years without a seizure and had stopped medicine and everything. Then I quit smoking pot. 3 days later, I had a seizure. Went back on medicine and started smoking it again. I went 11 more years without a seizure and quit smoking pot again, although I did continue to take the medication. 4 days later I have another seizure, and this one almost killed me.

I was on medication! So, yes sir, I did start smoking it again. What would you do in my shoes?

I've come full circle on it and am ready to begin treating my situation like an evil spirit, like in scripture. (Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:14-29, and Luke 9:37-43. )

I have been studying spiritual warfare and casting out spirits. Mostly Derek Prince on youtube. I learned some interesting things. Like how demonic oppression is not always the answer to medical conditions. That something can happen like an injury or whatever and at first it is purely physical and medicalb condition , but it can open the door for evil spirits to enter, then it becomes demonic oppression (if healing from the Lord is not addressed?). Same thing with certain mental illnesses. First it starts as a physical ailment and then invites demonic oppression in and then it gets worse. It always helps to know the spirits name when you cast it out. Spirit of Infirmary? Spirit of Epilepsy? I dunno for sure. I have talked directly to it and told it to leave before quite a few times, and nothing seemed to happen. I didn't feel anything leave.

But Jesus said, this kind (my kind) only goes out with prayer and fasting. So a spirit of seizures is a strong spirit and resistant to being cast out? So I've been praying and fasting and try casting it out every so often. I still take my medication, I still smoke the pot. And, I havent had any more seizures.

If I accidently on purpose cast out the evil spirit that makes me have seizures, how would I know? When do I realize I can stop taking the medication, and quit smoking pot! I would have to play russian roulette to find out?

See my situation Brother? Perhaps you would come into agreement with me that I cast out that spirit in Jesus name and become healed of it and overcome it, and say a prayer in agreement with me?

 

[Edward429451]

3) i'd advise nobody to smoke it. i'd use a vaporizer. this guarantees a slower delivery and this way you can also dose much finer.

Brother, do you know how expensive that stuff is? It's thru the roof! I can't afford that on SS. I do dose it too. I never have smoked it all day every day, lol. Even when I smoked it recreationally. I guess I'm a light weight lol. Now it is medicinal use for me. I'd like to quit it, but I like living too! No more car wrecks for me. I know how much of it I have to keep in my system. Not a lot. Just don't run out for 3 days or more!

I lived in Colorado and they semi legalized it at first and I did have my red card so I was allowed to grow 6 plants. Now Edibles work differently on the body that smoking it. It is a great muscle relaxer either way, but to keep THC in the system without having to walk around stoned all the time with a foggy head, eat the edibles because they left me with a clear head. However, like I said, the dispensaries sell edibles for way too much. And I could make edibles, but it takes way more than 6 plants to make edibles. So, being limited to 6 stopped that. So I smoke it. Sometimes only one hit. I never go go to a dispensary, too expensive. Legalization of it didn't affect the black market at all, lol!

So smoking it is the cheapest way to get the medicine from it for us old retired guys on SS, lol. True. Everything's economics nowadays. I don't have no smoking buddies like when I was a young man so it last's me a long time. Couple/few hits before bed puts it in my system and relaxes my back muscles where I carry pain from my truck wreck. Works great. But it's all BS. It is in my heart to quit it and set it down completely. And my anti-seizure medication.

My Brothers & Sisters here could pray for me to be able to do that...in Jesus name!

 

[Edward429451]

saw this and thought of this thread, are the dolphins addicts?

Is that true or just a joke?!

 

[Daisy2]

Brother, do you know how expensive that stuff is? It's thru the roof! I can't afford that on SS. I do dose it too. I never have smoked it all day every day, lol. Even when I smoked it recreationally. I guess I'm a light weight lol. Now it is medicinal use for me. I'd like to quit it, but I like living too! No more car wrecks for me. I know how much of it I have to keep in my system. Not a lot. Just don't run out for 3 days or more!

I lived in Colorado and they semi legalized it at first and I did have my red card so I was allowed to grow 6 plants. Now Edibles work differently on the body that smoking it. It is a great muscle relaxer either way, but to keep THC in the system without having to walk around stoned all the time with a foggy head, eat the edibles because they left me with a clear head. However, like I said, the dispensaries sell edibles for way too much. And I could make edibles, but it takes way more than 6 plants to make edibles. So, being limited to 6 stopped that. So I smoke it. Sometimes only one hit. I never go go to a dispensary, too expensive. Legalization of it didn't affect the black market at all, lol!

So smoking it is the cheapest way to get the medicine from it for us old retired guys on SS, lol. True. Everything's economics nowadays. I don't have no smoking buddies like when I was a young man so it last's me a long time. Couple/few hits before bed puts it in my system and relaxes my back muscles where I carry pain from my truck wreck. Works great. But it's all BS. It is in my heart to quit it and set it down completely. And my anti-seizure medication.

My Brothers & Sisters here could pray for me to be able to do that...in Jesus name!

 

[Edward429451]

I know how to do that. I have made brownies before. But not since I've been retired with next to no money! Takes too much weed.

I smoke less than 1/2 oz per month. I buy 1/4 oz when I get paid and another one later in the month. 15, 18, 20 days later? Something like that.

 

[kqr_anointed]

what a long thread it’s smoking

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I'm not exactly happy abut it.I tried to set it down two times. Last time it almost killed me.

At this point I'm disabled/retired drawing my SS money. My kids are grown, the wife jumped ship, and I live alone now. I have to be able to drive. I have no one to run my errands for me, go to the grocery store or wherever. I have to drive. Praise the Lord I have a good truck!

The story goes, I was about 5 years old and jumping on the bed. I flew off of it the wrong way and hit my head real hard on the baseboard and raised an egg on it. Shortly thereafter I started having grand mal seizures and I have had seizures off and on for all my life since then. I thought I grew out of it because I went 18 years without a seizure and had stopped medicine and everything. Then I quit smoking pot. 3 days later, I had a seizure. Went back on medicine and started smoking it again. I went 11 more years without a seizure and quit smoking pot again, although I did continue to take the medication. 4 days later I have another seizure, and this one almost killed me.

I was on medication! So, yes sir, I did start smoking it again. What would you do in my shoes?

I've come full circle on it and am ready to begin treating my situation like an evil spirit, like in scripture. (Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:14-29, and Luke 9:37-43. )

I have been studying spiritual warfare and casting out spirits. Mostly Derek Prince on youtube. I learned some interesting things. Like how demonic oppression is not always the answer to medical conditions. That something can happen like an injury or whatever and at first it is purely physical and medicalb condition , but it can open the door for evil spirits to enter, then it becomes demonic oppression (if healing from the Lord is not addressed?). Same thing with certain mental illnesses. First it starts as a physical ailment and then invites demonic oppression in and then it gets worse. It always helps to know the spirits name when you cast it out. Spirit of Infirmary? Spirit of Epilepsy? I dunno for sure. I have talked directly to it and told it to leave before quite a few times, and nothing seemed to happen. I didn't feel anything leave.

But Jesus said, this kind (my kind) only goes out with prayer and fasting. So a spirit of seizures is a strong spirit and resistant to being cast out? So I've been praying and fasting and try casting it out every so often. I still take my medication, I still smoke the pot. And, I havent had any more seizures.

If I accidently on purpose cast out the evil spirit that makes me have seizures, how would I know? When do I realize I can stop taking the medication, and quit smoking pot! I would have to play russian roulette to find out?

See my situation Brother? Perhaps you would come into agreement with me that I cast out that spirit in Jesus name and become healed of it and overcome it, and say a prayer in agreement with me?

Brother, do you know how expensive that stuff is? It's thru the roof! I can't afford that on SS. I do dose it too. I never have smoked it all day every day, lol. Even when I smoked it recreationally. I guess I'm a light weight lol. Now it is medicinal use for me. I'd like to quit it, but I like living too! No more car wrecks for me. I know how much of it I have to keep in my system. Not a lot. Just don't run out for 3 days or more!

I lived in Colorado and they semi legalized it at first and I did have my red card so I was allowed to grow 6 plants. Now Edibles work differently on the body that smoking it. It is a great muscle relaxer either way, but to keep THC in the system without having to walk around stoned all the time with a foggy head, eat the edibles because they left me with a clear head. However, like I said, the dispensaries sell edibles for way too much. And I could make edibles, but it takes way more than 6 plants to make edibles. So, being limited to 6 stopped that. So I smoke it. Sometimes only one hit. I never go go to a dispensary, too expensive. Legalization of it didn't affect the black market at all, lol!

So smoking it is the cheapest way to get the medicine from it for us old retired guys on SS, lol. True. Everything's economics nowadays. I don't have no smoking buddies like when I was a young man so it last's me a long time. Couple/few hits before bed puts it in my system and relaxes my back muscles where I carry pain from my truck wreck. Works great. But it's all BS. It is in my heart to quit it and set it down completely. And my anti-seizure medication.

My Brothers & Sisters here could pray for me to be able to do that...in Jesus name!

I will definitely pray for your situation! I'm leaving this entirely in God's hands - He will know how best help you with. Please trust continually through your trial - He will surely follow through with the best and most effective solution!

 

[Suze]

I do believe that everything God created is good and has its place in His creation and I know it can b an effective painkiller .
I do know some people who have smoked it very regularly for a very long time . One of these people I hadn't seen for about fifteen years . When I did c him , after fifteen years , he was still talking about his plans to do a specific thing that he had been talking about fifteen years previously . Just like fifteen years ago was yesterday , I think to him it probably was .
My cousin's wife also smokes a lot of it , very regularly and for a long time now . She's at least ten years younger than me and was very beautiful twenty years ago but she now looks ten years older than me . Her hair is falling out and her gums r receeding badly , she's only in her mid forties but she looks over 60 . I did smoke it occasionally when I was in my early twenties , but once I was baptised I stopped hanging around with the people I used to ,so I just stopped smoking it .

 

[JohnDB]

I cannot agree with such a generalization. What about all the talk about turbo cancer and heart attacks and strokes?

On youtube there are TONS of videos from MDs who talk about the long term side effects of the vaccine.

How harmful the vaccine truly is will (if at all) only be known in the future, but this will probably also be suppressed.

I'd rather smoke weed all day than get the covid shot from hell.

And I'm not addicted to cannabis. I've been using med.cannabis for years now.

Maybe you can become addicted to it, but you can also become addicted to many other things.

If the person using it is simply stupid and irresponsible then such a person can harm herself in many other way, too.

It all comes down to wether you're responsible or not.

You want license to get high....
I understand that completely.

But do not discount the consequences of your choice as I have laid them out.

People in upper management are very much aware of how much their staff behaves like middle school children in grown up form. You believe that's coincidence? Go right ahead.

You believe Iranian and Russian propaganda boys about the mRNA vaccines? OK....whatever.

However....Marijuana, even medical Marijuana, is 16X more carcinogenic than tobacco. That's a 1,600% increase in cancers over non cannabis users who do engage in tobacco use.

Ummmmm.....the mRNA Vax doesn't come close to those kinds of numbers by the hospital janitor writing these studies which get published.

And I hate to break it to you....
But you are already exhibiting all the signs of classic chemical dependency. The taking of yourself too seriously is the first sign. The anger levels and anger incidences rising slowly over the years and never lowering....so slow you don't notice. But others do. Friends and acquaintances slowly getting shorter and shorter visits with you....becoming less available until the relationship either ends with fiery outrage from you or they simply evaporate and where new relationships are fewer and fewer than those who Naturally evaporate due to changing schedules or moving.

Just saying.....

 

[Burn1986]

So I'm curious if it feels like Cannabis helps me focus more and put me in a state where i can safely say i read the bible and can understand it a bit better while on the stuff.. Is it still considered sinful if it can help someone like me do that?
Usually I'm very autistic and my mind tends to get bored rather easy and starts to wander.. but with cannabis it helps me focus and during that time I usually am focus on the bible.

What answer do you want from us?