Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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They regularly make declarative statements about the Bible that are verifiably false. @Jackson129

Over and over and over again they show they do not believe what
the Bible actually says. They believe their false doctrine instead.
 
Jackson129 said:
When I respond I repost the entire post I respond to so the people reading can get the full context of what is being said. I dont just use one segment that looks bad for me and good for you. You are literally doing exactly what you accuse them of doing to the Bible.
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I had already quoted your whole post and all three or four are on the same page.

If you really don't like the things you say because they make you look bad, then do something about it.

Plus I did not change the meaning of what you said. You are being dishonest.
 
Magenta said:
I had already quoted your whole post and all three or four are on the same page.

If you really don't like the things you say because they make you look bad, then do something about it.
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The real problem her is you think nothing you say is bad. I could copy and paste at will just like you. Can you imagine the crap I could come up with erasing entire words and sentencesof your post. And then telling you "quit typing bad stuff then"
 
Jackson129 said:
The real problem her is you think nothing you say is bad
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Another erroneous assumption blown into a predictably false accusation.

You really ought to stop being such a liar, Jackson.

I prefer dealing with the Truth.

But it is in short supply around here.

And it's sickening.
 
Magenta said:
They regularly make declarative statements about the Bible that are verifiably false. @Jackson129

Over and over and over again they show they do not believe what
the Bible actually says. They believe their false doctrine instead.
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Ok so are all the Christians who dont follow your doctrine going to the lake of fire?
 
Jackson129 said:
Ok so are all the Christians who dont follow your doctrine going to the lake of fire?
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Which doctrine? Are you making things up again?

How confused are you really?

Born again people do not suffer the second death.

Try reading the verses around 1 Corinthians 3:14.
 
Magenta said:
Another erroneous assumption blown into a predictably false accusation.

You really ought to stop being such a liar, Jackson.

I prefer dealing with the Truth.

But it is in short supply around here.

And it's sickening.
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So calling people a heretic is what nice and right. Always calling them preverters of the word. I have yet to call any one on here a liar or a heritic. Even if I dont agree with them the worst I say is I dont see how you understand it that way. I did say Calvin was guilty of slow burning a guy at the stake. And I consider that accessory to murder but he's not on the forums. I still will not call you liar. I will make assumptions about people just like you do. Don't pretend yours are any less erounous than mine.
 
Magenta said:
Which doctrine? Are you making things up again?

How confused are you really?

Born again people do not suffer the second death.

Try reading the verses around 1 Corinthians 3:14.
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Well only born again people can understand scripture and since alot of us cannot understand scripture according to you.... im asking you if that means only people who believe your doctrine are saved?
 
Magenta said:
Another false accusation. You are incorrigible.


You said he jumped on the bandwagon when in actual fact he was against it.
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As too the first one anyone can read back 8 pages or so and see if that is true or not.

As too the second one read all the history books you want and see if that was true or not.
 
If if people do not like being called liars they really ought to stop telling lies... and if they are too Lily livered to face the truth about themselves then this is not the place for them... but I am done with thinking you are a potentially reasonable person, Jackson. Bye.
 
Magenta said:
If if people do not like being called liars they really ought to stop telling lies... and if they are too Lily livered to face the truth about themselves then this is not the place for them... but I am done with thinking you are a potentially reasonable person, Jackson. Bye.
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This is the internet after all. There are alot of people who are too Lilly livered to face reality and this is where they come. The land of the internets. These places become thier reality where they can say and do or act how they truly want to in real life but can't. Uts like a digital representation of thier true self. They should have a whole field of psychology devoted to it.

There's always gonna be people who dont agree with you some rather passionately tiss life and everywhere you go. The way to respond to a real or precieved attack on your person or personality is not with another real or precieved attack on some one else's. I myself have stooped to that level in my life many times. Even as a Christian. But before it gets to out of hand I try my best to remember to tun the other cheek.

I hope nothing but the best for you.
 
Cameron143 said:
No, I'm not sinless. Neither am I evil. That's why I disagree with your definition of evil.
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Evil im sure has differnt meanings God vs humans for instance. I dont consider myself evil. Like us humans think stealing a candy bar is better than killing some one. I myself do. To God they are both sins and both disgusting and both come from evil. We have scales for our justice system. God does not. So maybe that's where our differences in opinion on the word evil come from. I try to see it from God's point of view not mine. Because its his that matter.
 
Magenta said:
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John 14 v 17a, Romans 8 v 6-9 ~ “Inability” in Bible The world cannot receive the Spirit of truth. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
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Well, there is still a condition here, 'if anyone,' which is the same as 'whosoever.' If there is a condition, then there are choices to make, and the free will to respond to it. One simply believes in Christ or not. Actually, Romans 8 was specifically for those who had already received the Spirit of God. These are they who are already IN Christ and merely contrasting the life with the Spirit and the life in the flesh. 'If' presents options, offers choices or alternatives, or simply provides the ability to choose.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore no condemnation which are in Christ Jesus...
Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you...

So this proves no inability at all.
 
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