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Is masturbation really a sin?
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Sooooooooo , these questions r very specific and go out to all of u who believe that masturbation is a sin .
Do u believe that masturbation is a sin because it is fulfilling the lusts of the flesh ?
R unmarried ?
Do u , or have u ever had sex with your spouse ?
When u did or do have sex with your spouse , do u use any form of contraception ?
If u answered ' yes ' to these questions then , by your own logic , when u have sex using any form of contraception , u r having sex for the sole purpose of satisfying your lust . Therefore u r in the same category as people who masturbate I think.
I am not sure who you are asking but it is none of your Business what two married couples do in their Bedroom. That is why lust is so perverted it tries to corrupt what God said is Good. Like sex inmarriage between one man and one woman. Desire in normal for one's wife or husband. Yet you try to make it about lust. It is not. Desire is good lack of self-control is not of God nor of the Spirit. Married people are not in the same category as single people or unmarried couples. Thats Bible 101
I can't believe some of the things I've been reading on these pages.
Matt5: 27“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; 28but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29Now if your right eye is causing you to sin, tear it out and throw it away from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into [t]hell. 30And if your right hand is causing you to sin, cut it off and throw it away from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, [v]than for your whole body to go into [w]hell.
Since all of this is context, It shouldn't take long to figure out what is being said in verses 29 - 30.
Single & married, lusting after a woman is adultery. Same with the women with men.
Yet, some say it's ok when you think about your spouse. Yeah.... just how do you do that without Satan distracting you with somebody else? It might be her head, but whose body is attached to it?
You're able without pornography? Really? Yet you watch the screen in your mind, porn already in your heart. That's evil.
If you're married & masterbate, you lack self control, which the Bible says is a sin. Incontinent, incontinency, & incontinence are the words to search for in your Bible.
2 Timothy 3 1But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, [a]haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power; avoid such people as these. 6For among them are those who [c]slip into households and captivate [d]weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7always learning and never able to come to the [e]knowledge of the truth.
Matthew 23:25
New American Standard Bible
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence.
self-indulgence (Webster) - excessive or unrestrained gratification of one's own appetites, desires, or whims.
Many have deceived themselves by saying "No one sees what I'm thinking" " It's not a sin if I don't actually do it."
30 years ago there would be no question about this being a sin.
Matt5: 27“You have heard that it was said, ‘YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY’; 28but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29Now if your right eye is causing you to sin, tear it out and throw it away from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into [t]hell. 30And if your right hand is causing you to sin, cut it off and throw it away from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, [v]than for your whole body to go into [w]hell.
Since all of this is context, It shouldn't take long to figure out what is being said in verses 29 - 30.
Single & married, lusting after a woman is adultery. Same with the women with men.
Yet, some say it's ok when you think about your spouse. Yeah.... just how do you do that without Satan distracting you with somebody else? It might be her head, but whose body is attached to it?
You're able without pornography? Really? Yet you watch the screen in your mind, porn already in your heart. That's evil.
If you're married & masterbate, you lack self control, which the Bible says is a sin. Incontinent, incontinency, & incontinence are the words to search for in your Bible.
2 Timothy 3 1But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. 2For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, slanderers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, [a]haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power; avoid such people as these. 6For among them are those who [c]slip into households and captivate [d]weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7always learning and never able to come to the [e]knowledge of the truth.
Matthew 23:25
New American Standard Bible
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of robbery and self-indulgence.
self-indulgence (Webster) - excessive or unrestrained gratification of one's own appetites, desires, or whims.
Many have deceived themselves by saying "No one sees what I'm thinking" " It's not a sin if I don't actually do it."
30 years ago there would be no question about this being a sin.
I lusted after my wife for 32 years. And her after me. So Im not sure what your trying to convey.
What about wet dreams?
I was told it was a sin to have one.
I was told it was a sin to have one.
Testicular pain takes a few months for most men. I would suggest pastoral counseling if you're having that.
You can suggest all you want me to do by evading the question.
Care to suggest what you would tell me to do?
Also you missed out my last sentence of my post.
that is cute but Lust and desire are two different things Biblically.
Lust in the Bible is created from an evil heart or thing. The Greek is clear that Desire can also be bad it is not to be interjected with Lust. which is 100% contextually wrong!. 18 times lust is mentioned all is of ungodly things.
The Old Testament the word lust seen in Psalms 78:30 means ta'ăvâ = lust, appetite, covetousness (bad sense)
IN the Greek from Matthew 5:28 the word is which means: to lust after, covet of those who seek things forbidden
in contrast to "Desire" of that which is godly we in the word of God over 100 times. The word in Hebrew is
ḥāp̄ēṣ which is in context to delighting in the Lord Found in Numbers 14:8
and rāṣôn found in 2Chron 15:15 which means
pleasure, delight, favour, goodwill, acceptance, will goodwill, favour.
The context is very clear Lust for one's wife in not correct Grammatical context. Desire is right lust is wrong if it is misplayed.
We need to know that why? Desiring your wife (one's own wife) is perfectly fine. if you have medical issue, go to the Doctor. and save us from your forward description. I'm I don't want to hear about nor to the sister in this Discussion. Perfect example of why this topic ends up with loose cannon responses.
All you needed to do was answer the question and no more.
It should finish at "perfectly fine"
You assume I was asking for myself, if that were the case I would have made it clear.
Your a pastor would you have given the same response to someone in your church if they presented what I did?
Now I'm blushing.BillG has replaced Capt. Kirk as my hero.
Mind you I actually have Spock ears.
My wife and I have been together for 33 years.
My wife and I celebrated 31 years of marriage last week.
It's amazing to still have a passion and desire for each other.
Congrats for 32 years of marriage.
Yes, I would and have and teach this very subject more often than you know. I set ground rules when I teach this, but this was not my thread just my opinion what is said. however, I would have said the same thing in the church setting, but most people would not say what you did public in person. Because that would be unwise. But on a chat site who can verify who any one is.
I have been married for 32 years to one woman. I have counseled many and still do. I have helped many and still overcome sexual idolatry through the power and word of GOD.
The way you handle this addiction is with truth and confrontation. as all addicts they must surrender and not make excuses or live in denial.
The debate of masterbation is just like the debate with Artwork. People where condemned to death because of paintings. It was also viewed that any position with your wife other than missionary was an act of evil. Many people had been burned to the cross for it, that and masturbation.
Some people still practice the religion of condemning artwork, saying that it's idol worship.
God would not have us be religious. He wants us to be free from that.
The debate is what's called, 'trained behavior'. Whether you condemn it or not, is trained behavior. Right now there is a fight going on with two sides attempting to train the behavior of the other side.
Some people still practice the religion of condemning artwork, saying that it's idol worship.
God would not have us be religious. He wants us to be free from that.
The debate is what's called, 'trained behavior'. Whether you condemn it or not, is trained behavior. Right now there is a fight going on with two sides attempting to train the behavior of the other side.