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Your hatred of the Jews is really getting worse by the day.

God gave the land to Israel. Stop being one of the goats.

No facts only fiction – Zionist Jews laugh at the Christians who support them and consider them as fools and the hatred they have for Christians is even more that the hatred for Muslims.



No one hates Jews - but many have an issue with Israel / Zionist - even Jews protest against Israel & Zionism - but conveniently you ignore and push the usual 'Zionist narrative'.



I now we clearly don’t agree but what’s with the 'red cross' for asking for information from the Quran (from someone who says they know)? If the Quran says vile things murder / killing etc... good to know for knowledge so I can put it to my Muslim colleagues. Happy for you to provide any passages. Note: I am taking about facts/ evidence / passages - not opinions.



I look forward to anything constructive, but I won’t hold my breath!
 
The gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable (Rom. 11:29)

“…Brethren and fathers, listen: The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham…and said to him, ‘Come to a land that I will show you’” (Acts 7:2–3).

“…at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers of the
covenants of promise…
(Eph. 2:12).

“When they had come together, they asked Him, saying, ‘Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?’” (Acts 1:6). Jesus' reply It is not for you to know the times or seasons…”

God led Abraham to a place to receive as an inheritance, and that Isaac and Jacob were heirs with him of the same promise (Heb 11:9).


Luke 13, Jesus said that one day the residents of Jerusalem will welcome him (v. 35), and in chapter 21 prophesies that Jerusalem will be trampled upon by gentiles until the times of the gentiles are completed.

Jesus also refers to the land in a verse that it almost universally mistranslated: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the land (Matt 5:5). More and more scholars are recognizing that Jesus is quoting word-for-word Ps 37:11. Five times this psalm uses the phrase inherit the land, and each time the Hebrew word eretz refers unmistakably to the land of Israel, not the whole earth.

All for believers in Christ Jesus.

God does not reward those who reject His Son.
 
As of March 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members.[1][2][3] It has been a non-member observer state of the United Nations General Assembly since November 2012.[4][5] This limited status is largely due to the fact that the United States, a permanent member of the UN Security Council with veto power, has consistently used its veto or threatened to do so to block Palestine's full UN membership.[6][7]


An historian you are not. Do you think it is good to promote falsehoods.

It is not good to dehumanize people and defend "might makes right" power and money.

They were DENIED statehood by the UK/France when they area was carved up,, but keep screaming falsehoods and dehumanizing people, makes you look really good on a Christian Chat site

Seems you are really, really triggered, I really suggest you get some help.
Unbelievable.

Miss "Final Solution", is now citing the UN as justification for the phony state of Palestine!

Here's why she loves the UN:
Since 2015, the General Assembly has adopted 140 resolutions criticizing Israel, mainly over its treatment of the Palestinians, its relationships with neighboring countries and other alleged wrongdoings. Over the same period, it has passed 68 resolutions against all other countries, UN Watch said.

ALL the World will assemble against Israel. EACTLY as said in Scripture.
 
As evidenced by their fruit, many Christians are Christian in name only

Yes I am going to have to accept this as the reality.

I cannot bear believing someone is IN Christ at the same time defends mass atrocities against other human beings.

Saying they have to leave the land they have lived in for centuries based on the incoherent ramblings of two wicked man like Darby and Scofield.

And ultimately denying the very work of Christ Jesus and Paul who makes it so clear who is a Jew!!
 
Do you remember in the story of Abraham . God came to him and promised him that through his seed all people would be blessed . And then Sarai came and told Abraham “ well that’s great now take my handmaid and make a baby with her so that you’ll have an hier.

rather than waiting for God to bring to pass his promise his way they decided to make tbier own goer and fulfill Gods promise . God didn’t accept it instead he returned and promised that Abraham would have a son with his wife one year later and that would be his hier of the promise .

The son who was born of the Will of man Was cast out while the son of promise was the only one accepted as Abraham’s heir of the promises god had been making him

God made another covenant with and for ishmael because he also was Abraham’s offspring but not of faith

I think people sort of try to do what saria did and after the war they tried to make it happen among many other motives religion was one for the warlords after ww2 to re establish Israel as they saw it should be rather than waiting for Gods plan which is far better than mans.

He talks a lot about the new things to come throughout the Bible it’s going to be far better than this fallen world a lot of people have trouble with doing this part

“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3:1-4‬ ‭

Thank you @Pilgrimshope, very insightful about man making things happen instead of waiting upon the Lord.
 
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Something very wrong with Christians who harps about the land belonging to the Jews and willing to have people murdered to make it happen.
Seems to me they have no prophet?
Seems to me that Christians who swallow Hamas propaganda without checking facts are doing the devil's job for him. Hamas demands control of food supplies. There is video evidence of Hamas robbing aid convoys and taking the food for themselves. Hamas then sells that food to the people of Gaza. It's one way they fund their terror campaign. Hamas fighters have been shooting at Gazans queuing for food to prevent them from bypassing Hamas. Hamas has killed some aid workers as well.

The problem is not Israel. Gaza could have had peace any time it chose to lay down its grudges and weapons. Israel offered employment to Gazans. Some of the Israelis murdered by Hamas helped Gazans. You are happy to excuse those who burn babies alive, who rape mothers in front of their children and who will not rest until Israel is destroyed and the whole world is Muslim. Unless you are a closet Muslim, your attitude makes no sense.
 
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Do you not think it is evil to steal someone else's land?

At the end of the day that's Gods real-estate. How and when his appointed time was to come to pass is and was with him.
Your argument is not with me but with him.
Nothing made of the flesh shall prosper ....yet it has. Against all odds. That my friend you can't deny.
The how and when is not in our hands but has been determined before the foundations of the earth.
It's not as if billions of jews over took that sliver of land and out number the adversaries....no ... quit the opposite.
Your argument cannot prevail because there is no evidence seen.
Do you really think Israel would prosper if this was against God? Do you really think they would defeat the enemy that opposed with a hand full of weapons and able people against millions.
 
Yes I am going to have to accept this as the reality.

I cannot bear believing someone is IN Christ at the same time defends mass atrocities against other human beings.

Saying they have to leave the land they have lived in for centuries based on the incoherent ramblings of two wicked man like Darby and Scofield.

And ultimately denying the very work of Christ Jesus and Paul who makes it so clear who is a Jew!!
Even if Israel was not God's nation, your attitude to the Jews is sickening.
 
Seems to me that Christians who swallow Hamas propaganda without checking facts are doing the devil's job for him. Hamas demands control of food supplies. There is video evidence of Hamas robbing aid convoys and taking the food for themselves. Hamas then sells that food to the people of Gaza. It's one way they fund their terror campaign. Hamas fighters have been shooting at Gazans queuing for food to prevent them from bypassing Hamas. Hamas has killed some aid workers as well.

The problem is not Israel. Gaza could have had peace any time it chose to lay down its grudges and weapons. Israel offered employment to Gazans. Some of the Israelis murdered by Hamas helped Gazans. You are happy to excuse those who burn babies alive, who rape mothers in front of their children and who will not rest until Israel is destroyed and the whole world is Muslim. Unless you are a closet Muslim, your attitude makes no sense.

My attitude makes perfect sense because I have not bought the lie of Scofield dispensationalisim.
 
Even if Israel was not God's nation, your attitude to the Jews is sickening.

Right, because I do not defend their atrocities, keep assuming I have many Jewish and Muslim friends, and you know what else is weird

they too get along if not for all this mess being created in the middle east by the UK/France and USA.
 
My attitude makes perfect sense because I have not bought the lie of Scofield dispensationalisim.
You do realize that Scofield and Darby only promote the Pre-Trib viewpoint. That is not even 1% of what Matthew 24, Luke 16, Mark 13, Thessalonians, Revelation, Daniel, Others are all about.

Who cares about [((LESS THAN))] 1%

The other 99.5% information is God Inspired.
 
Do you not think it is evil to steal someone else's land?
It's never been "their" land. Palestine was a construct, a name given by the Romans as an insult to the Jews. Before WW1, it was a province of the Ottoman empire. It was given to the British to govern at the end of WW1, as the Ottomans were defeated. Jews had been migrating to Israel for years, buying land. Israel as a nation was created under the auspices of the United Nations. Britain quit the region just before independence, leaving Israel to its fate. The British government secretly hoped that Israel would be wiped out. The British trained the Egyptian army and some Arab militias.

What Israel did in purchasing land is in stark contrast to the good ole USA. I trust you are lobbying your government to hand back the southern states to Mexico, taken by military force. I'm sure the progressives in California won't mind. I suppose Texas would complain, but that's just hard luck. No doubt Utah would object along with Nevada. I don't know about the other states.
 
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