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lrs68

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That's exactly what I'm talking about
I've seen documentaries with Hamas describing what they did and then other information that verifies it.

It really goes back to belief.

Example, free will interprets John 3:16 as the entire people to ever live but Reformed claim only for the chosen. Or the continuation versus cessation.

You simply think due to your personal beliefs what you do. Doesn't mean you are close to Scriptural and natural truths but that's simply how you believe and your posts indicate your beliefs.
 
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Thank you for your response.

# Judaism is the religion of the Jews – yes now, but did not exist until the 12th -13th Century – nothing to do with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc… came from the Hebrew word - "Yehudi," meaning "of Judah"
It started with Abraham...



‘Khazars’ – Not beduked at all – fact – where do you get your information
DNA – don’t know what you are reading - testing is controlled very tightlysee https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Health/GeneticInformationLaw.pdf
Google it, you will find it's been debunked.



‘Not committed Genocide – WHAT!!!! – blinded!
No they haven't.

Abrahams MANY nations – what you have shown is descendants – that’s different from what NATIONS means (different ethnics groups, people) – Jews are 1 race / nation – to be many have to be others ie non jews as well. Matt 28:19 - Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
...blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore


Covenants – I don’t really understand your point
How are/ were covenants made, agreed to. How were they performed?


El Olam – you can imply forever when it comes to God - obviously God is everlasting – however, that doesn’t change the meaning of the word – duration / period. I have shown you evidence from ‘Strong's Concordance 5769’ not my opinion.

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
always, ancient time, any more, continuance, eternal, for, everlasting, long time,
 
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Same answer to you.
“If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell”

I don't see a lot of one eyed one armed Christians running around, do you??!
 

rogerg

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Same answer to you.
“If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell”


I don't see a lot of one eyed one armed Christians running around, do you??!
"same answer to you? I don't follow your point. Are you suggesting that we are to actually gouge out our eye? Are you saying it should be taken literally? You said that some parables are literal, I asked you which ones. The above was your reply. What am I missing?
 
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Yeah, it's interesting that among the people who believe natural Israel are "God's people" denounce people who don't agree with them with accusations like "You just hate the Jews!".

No. Actually, a new and living way was made for them: through Christ! Shouldn't that be the wonderful sound of the gospel? The Jews are no longer under the curse of the Law or anything tied to it when they turn to Christ! And, they become more than simply "God's chosen people" they become co-heirs with the Lord of lords!

What really is going on is that most of the Old Covenant believers really worship the United States and its interests. They are also racist against Arabs, even though the Arabs, as Gentiles, are currently being brought to God. Ironically, claiming Jews are special apart from Christ nullifies any motivation for Jews to come to Christ. It is a message that is anti-gospel. It divides Christ into two separate covenants: one for the Jews another for everyone else.

I think this deception is part of the end-days delusion that God has sent the people. In the U.S., many of them voted for a Mormon (a religion they KNEW was a cult) and now a serial adulterer who, on audio, laughed about assaulting women.

"But," they'll say, "Trump does what's right for the U.S."

There's a good chance these same people once quoted the scripture "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." and then sprinted to the polls to secure the man who thrives in unfruitful works of darkness.
Politics is a divider.Worldly politics is the worst.Christians who get too invested in it get corrupted by it.
 

Aaron56

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Politics is a divider.Worldly politics is the worst.Christians who get too invested in it get corrupted by it.
Yeah. The war in Gaza is not a heads or tails kind of war. It's complicated. Very complicated given the centuries-long history of strife between the descendants of Isaac and Ishmael. And it didn't start on October 7th.

Both sides are killing one another. One does it because their religious doctrine allows them to kill people who are their enemies the other does it because their national doctrine allows them to kill people who are their enemies. One claims to adhere to global conventions of conflict the other says they are fighting to keep their homes and neighborhoods so they can employ any means necessary. One says, as a nation they have the right to defend itself the other says, as a people they have a right to defend themselves.

Which one should be required to "turn the other cheek"?

None will because neither adhere to a standard higher than their own interests. Sure one side seems more refined than the other but their bullets kill the same way when fired at the opposition. Men, women and children die no matter who pulls the trigger.
 

rogerg

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Same answer to you.
“If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell”


I don't see a lot of one eyed one armed Christians running around, do you??!
The use of "common sense" doesn't explain the point/message of the parable as it pertains to salvation, unless, that is, you
are taking it literally, which of course, would be incorrect. To understand it, spiritual wisdom, not common sense, is necessary.
 
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"same answer to you? I don't follow your point. Are you suggesting that we are to actually gouge out our eye? Are you saying it should be taken literally? You said that some parables are literal, I asked you which ones. The above was your reply. What am I missing?

No, the opposite was my point. That portion of Scripture isn't literal. Some of the Bible is meant to be taken literally, some is not.