Literal Israel, versus Spiritual Church

[Follower777]

Why would you ask AI about doctrine, let alone ask it to explain doctrine someone else? Did God send AI, and fill AI with the Holy Spirit? Did AI pray and receive revelation from God? You might as well ask a Muslim to do it.

I stopped reading at “I’ll be using AI”

Yes, though AI is a very powerful tool, like an functionally upgraded search engine, it can be used wrongly, for good OR evil. It's like a sharp knife, able to cut both ways. And yes, I am somewhat of a computer "nerd" having been building, and using them for about 30 years now.

You have to be careful what Large Language Model (LLM) the "data set ", that the AI "front-end" accesses. Because, if you use a "woke" LLM, like OpenAI, by Microsoft, that has an agenda, as they all do, you might ask it, how many genders are there and it might come back with something other than two... or how C19 “clotshots” are "safe & effective" or that "GOD's Sabbath has been changed to Sunday" ... all lies promoted by the World / Babylon.

I use a very, small data set, which only includes, the NKJV & KJV and a small select set of bible commentaries, excluding ALL the rest of the world's information, “datasets” that has been corrupted by the Papal System, the spirit of anti-Christ, and all the ignorant, selfish, uninspired, followers of the anti-Christ spirit in the World, these last 2000+ years.

I'm not saying that I am NOT, ignorant, selfish and uninspired ( Lacking the Holy Spirit ), but I have repented of my worldly ways, been converted, and the Lord is doing a mighty work in me, called "sanctification", bringing me out of the delusions and lies of the World / Babylon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Praise His Holy Name ! Thank You Lord ! <~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AI is VERY dangerous is our world, because of it's great potential to be misused, to further Satan's agendas... being aware of who and what, the Adversary is , and understanding how it/ he works, is half the battle, AND by the power of our Lord, Christ Jesus, we shall overcome, unto Salvation.

Eph 6:12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Therefore; put on the "Armor of God", and "be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves", and if you use AI, use it "wisely" or not at all.

 

[shittim]

I needed to learn this and more about AI, where would an old man who was dragged kicking and screaming into the computer age go to learn more and do so quickly?
blessings

 

[Follower777]

I needed to learn this and more about AI, where would an old man who was dragged kicking and screaming into the computer age go to learn more and do so quickly?
blessings

HERE is a website, that will get you started in understanding about AI ...
But like I said above, you have to be careful which AI flavor, (program - LLM) you use. I don't want Biblical doctrinal error and corruption inserted into the answers to my questions, "prompts" to AI. Depending on the Browser you use, most have AI search in the top address bar... I Like and use the Brave browser AI..

Get started and when you've learned a bit more, we can talk again ... Blessing Brother !!

 

[shittim]

Thank you kindly, the Lord led me to Brave some years ago, after He guided me to dump cable tv, something about paying $100 + per month to bring the devil into my home.
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[Planetmalla]

Yes, though AI is a very powerful tool, like an functionally upgraded search engine, it can be used wrongly, for good OR evil. It's like a sharp knife, able to cut both ways. And yes, I am somewhat of a computer "nerd" having been building, and using them for about 30 years now.

You have to be careful what Large Language Model (LLM) the "data set ", that the AI "front-end" accesses. Because, if you use a "woke" LLM, like OpenAI, by Microsoft, that has an agenda, as they all do, you might ask it, how many genders are there and it might come back with something other than two... or how C19 “clotshots” are "safe & effective" or that "GOD's Sabbath has been changed to Sunday" ... all lies promoted by the World / Babylon.

I use a very, small data set, which only includes, the NKJV & KJV and a small select set of bible commentaries, excluding ALL the rest of the world's information, “datasets” that has been corrupted by the Papal System, the spirit of anti-Christ, and all the ignorant, selfish, uninspired, followers of the anti-Christ spirit in the World, these last 2000+ years.

I'm not saying that I am NOT, ignorant, selfish and uninspired ( Lacking the Holy Spirit ), but I have repented of my worldly ways, been converted, and the Lord is doing a mighty work in me, called "sanctification", bringing me out of the delusions and lies of the World / Babylon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Praise His Holy Name ! Thank You Lord ! <~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AI is VERY dangerous is our world, because of it's great potential to be misused, to further Satan's agendas... being aware of who and what, the Adversary is , and understanding how it/ he works, is half the battle, AND by the power of our Lord, Christ Jesus, we shall overcome, unto Salvation.

Eph 6:12 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Therefore; put on the "Armor of God", and "be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves", and if you use AI, use it "wisely" or not at all.

When it comes to most Electrical Intelligences (AI), the responses they provide are usually based on widely accepted public beliefs. These beliefs are often shaped not by personal scientific inquiry but by a reliance on mainstream sources and institutions. The public tends to trust these sources, assuming the information is factual without verifying it through independent testing or research.


This same issue arises with religious scriptures. While Christian scriptures are indeed true and divinely inspired, they cannot always be scientifically proven in conventional terms. Furthermore, some verses may contain deeper meanings that are not immediately apparent. As a result, many Christians may interpret these passages incorrectly, and AI systems—which rely on popular interpretations and not divine insight—tend to echo these misunderstandings.


It is important to recognize that AI can and does provide misinformation. It does not always deliver the true meanings behind scriptural passages. However, AI is still a valuable tool when used alongside factual information and divinely correct scripture. It can support your efforts in expressing different levels of understanding, language translations, dialects, and cultural expressions.


If you ever require clarification about the meaning of any scriptural passage, my team is available and equipped to provide accurate interpretations based on truth and divine understanding.

 

[shittim]

What foresight the Creator has!
That He has provided Holy Spirit access that He can guide us in ALL truth, not leaning on our own understanding by AI or any other.
blessings

 

[SomeDisciple]

And yes, I am somewhat of a computer "nerd" having been building, and using them for about 30 years now.

Just a quick FYI; I have used the term "history nerd" to describe myself on this forum at least twice- so when I say "computer nerd"; it means something along the lines of "artisan" or at least "enthusiast".

The thing that aggravates me about "AI" is 100% it's exaggerated potential and the idea of it "gaining consciousness" as if we can even prove the existence of consciousness beyond ourselves; or have a firm grasp on what it is in the first place. Whenever I see something so exalted beyond reasonable measure I tend to want to smash it into pieces.

Having said that; I agree that "AI" is a tool, and as a tool-man, I do appreciate tools and their uses; but I don't suppose "AI" could offer a more accurate, efficient, or simple explanation as a man.

Where this topic is concerned- I think people understand the difference between bio-Israel (which you have dubbed "literal Israel") and spiritual Israel. Where the disagreements tend to come is when people discuss prophecy; and what prophecy pertains to which Israel.

Now, we have "land of Israel"; Israel the "ethno-nation"; Israel the "nation-state"; and the Church. The ethno-nation (which consists of part of the church) has now partially gathered within the "land of Israel" under the governance of Israel the "nation-state". THAT is where the chaotic prophecy disagreements come into play.

 

[Follower777]

Just a quick FYI; I have used the term "history nerd" to describe myself on this forum at least twice- so when I say "computer nerd"; it means something along the lines of "artisan" or at least "enthusiast".

The thing that aggravates me about "AI" is 100% it's exaggerated potential and the idea of it "gaining consciousness" as if we can even prove the existence of consciousness beyond ourselves; or have a firm grasp on what it is in the first place. Whenever I see something so exalted beyond reasonable measure I tend to want to smash it into pieces.

Having said that; I agree that "AI" is a tool, and as a tool-man, I do appreciate tools and their uses; but I don't suppose "AI" could offer a more accurate, efficient, or simple explanation as a man.

Where this topic is concerned- I think people understand the difference between bio-Israel (which you have dubbed "literal Israel") and spiritual Israel. Where the disagreements tend to come is when people discuss prophecy; and what prophecy pertains to which Israel.

Now, we have "land of Israel"; Israel the "ethno-nation"; Israel the "nation-state"; and the Church. The ethno-nation (which consists of part of the church) has now partially gathered within the "land of Israel" under the governance of Israel the "nation-state". THAT is where the chaotic prophecy disagreements come into play.

I appreciate your comments, Thank You.
I'm more of the "enthusiast" caliber, have wasted over 5 years of my life, gaming (WOW) and building gaming PCs , modifying, with very little coding, except for some HTML

Agreed ! Concerning AI accuracy and simplicity, but don't you think speed is related to efficiency? The main reason I appreciate using an AI engine. I'm an ol' man and have always loved math & science, and being that I'll not live that much longer, whether I die first or the Lord returns SOON, as I hope to see ... I really appreciate the SPEED at which AI can "read thru" a 30 million word dataset, (small) that I "literally" don't have enuf time left to study. I believe I'm in tune with my Lord and His righteousness well enough to see error in an AI response, in relation to the great cosmic Gospel Plan = ( pattern / an equation ) = God.

I like to understand scripture, being The Word, = Truth = Jesus = The Way = The Life, all being without contradiction, (=), which we are to harmonize with perfectly, Christ dwelling IN us, manifesting Christ's Righteousness, to the world, unto salvation. Much like man's mathematical system = logic, which I believe to be how God created us "in His Image". Being much like scriptural theorems / axioms that we are to prove by our existence, our relationship with God and our Neighbors, (Mark 12:30,31) during this short, probational experience we call "life". I believe all of scripture to be based on "God is Love", the foundation of The Word, proclaiming salvation by "obedience" to the Father = Love = His Character = the Law = the 10 commandments = the personage & character of Christ, and His Righteousness = obedience to the Will of God. ... and around it goes. ............... AI is a speedy scriptural truth compiler / extractor.

Where the disagreements tend to come is when people discuss prophecy; and what prophecy pertains to which Israel.

YuP ! I agree ! The many misconceptions are almost all do to our different understandings of Biblical prophecy, & OT, "type & anti-types", for example, I understand, Amos 9:13-14, as a prophetic, symbolic reference to the rapid spread of the gospel in the last days, emphasizing God's grace in bringing spiritual renewal and restoration to His people. This verse signifies that the conversion of individuals will happen swiftly in the final stages of the work, ( already begun ), highlighting the divine power and timing in God's plan for restoration, of His people This idea is closely related to God's judgment and the ultimate restoration of His people, here at the end of time, this suggests that before the "latter rain" (a symbol of the Holy Spirit), there will be a period of testing, after which God's Spirit will move rapidly, bringing people to a knowledge of the truth. Soon, literally !
Not the restoration of natural / literal / corporate Israel, here at the end of time, because, they haven't been in prophecy, since the OT.

What I understand about nature/ literal Israel, corporate Israel, is that they disqualified themselves from being God's chosen people, being "the church" when they said, "we have no king, but Caesar" John 19:15, killed Steven and Jesus saying, "your house is left to you desolate. Then in 70 AD most if not all, were killed, and some theologian historians submit that Jesus was the "last Semite". These people occupying Israel now, are under the pretense of being Jewish to gain a biblical right to the land. They are likely RH-neg or Khazars who converted to avoid religious persecution, in the 8th century. IMHO, et al.

The "Jew" in Revelation 3:9 does not primarily refer to literal Israelites, but rather to those who are spiritually faithful to God, regardless of ancestry. There are among the Jews many who will be converted... and will proclaim the immutability of the law of God. The true Jew is one who accepts truth and aligns with God's law and purposes. Aligning with Paul's idea from Romans 2:28–29—that a Jew is one "inwardly." = Spiritual Israel = Christ's Church.

The church is now the "seed of Abraham" through & in Jesus. Those who have Jesus' Spirit dwelling in them (Gal 2:20) are "spiritual Israel" and His Church, "here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. " Rev 14:12, Rev 12:10-11,
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, (the Church) and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Which is why we Adventists profess to being "The Remnant Church.

Those who believe that most of Revelations is not pertinent to us, but to the Jews only, are deceived. The totality of Revelations, is the prophetic history of God's church, from the destruction of Jerusalem, till after the heavenly millennium, the Great White Throne Judgement, to Eternity. ~~~> Hallelujah !!! <~~~ & Amen
Blessed Day Brother