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Yeah Adam was rejected because of what he did though not because of Gods desire vine decision to reject him
This wasn’t Adam and Eve rejected but created and made for and blessed and given dominion upon the earth
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
Genesis 1:27-28, 31 KJV
there’s nothing wrong with Adam and Eve they were created in the image of the lord and blessed by him given the whole very good earth to rule. Then God fellowshipped with them and placed them to live in Eden and tend the garden .
“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
….And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
Genesis 2:15-17, 25 KJV
There’s nothing wrong with them at all they are accepted already and blessed bit then after they break his commandment warning the about death by the knowledge of good and evil ….everything changes for them
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”
Genesis 3:4-8, 17-20, 22-24 KJV
It’s not that Adam was created wrong it’s that Satan corrupted them in thier minds and hearts with the knowledge of good and evil
man isn’t meant to know both good and evil it was a sin when they partook against gods will and in violation of the true commandment . We are designed by God to do action only by listening ing to what he tells us and believing and following that.
That’s our design like Jesus he walked always in obedience to the fathers word and kept his commandments. We aren’t made wrong we get corrupted through lust by temptation and sin and tbat corrupts us then we’re called to repent and live or continue in sin and die. Like cain was called to repent but continued on and was exiled
We aren’t born wrong we’re born with forbidden knowledge of good and evil that isn’t meant for us we’re meant to just trust Gods judgements of good and evil and be his people and trust his word on the matter
God made mankind from the beginning and blessed and chose them to be the only creature made in his image and likeness and given dominion to rule over the earth .
Adams relationship with God was before any mediation was necassary before even melchezidek was there to intervene or mediate between God and man
“And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
Genesis 2:19, 21-25 KJV
if these are unacceptable “ natural man “ why has god chosen and blessed them and commanded them telling them the truth about life and death ? Places them in Eden and fellowshipped with them ? It seems more like his enemy corrupted thier thinking and led then to forbidden knoweldge that now competes for thier service and loyalty within good and evil
We aren’t created or born wrong we choose evil which is what sin is knowing what’s right and choosing the other thing we know isn’t right before God. Because we’re corrupted knowing good and evil which we aren’t supposed to we’re meant to live by what God said to us in a covenant ….like Adam and eves covenant blessed and given dominion over the earth given the freedom and information we need from him to walk and live by
This wasn’t Adam and Eve rejected but created and made for and blessed and given dominion upon the earth
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”
Genesis 1:27-28, 31 KJV
there’s nothing wrong with Adam and Eve they were created in the image of the lord and blessed by him given the whole very good earth to rule. Then God fellowshipped with them and placed them to live in Eden and tend the garden .
“And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
….And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
Genesis 2:15-17, 25 KJV
There’s nothing wrong with them at all they are accepted already and blessed bit then after they break his commandment warning the about death by the knowledge of good and evil ….everything changes for them
“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”
Genesis 3:4-8, 17-20, 22-24 KJV
It’s not that Adam was created wrong it’s that Satan corrupted them in thier minds and hearts with the knowledge of good and evil
man isn’t meant to know both good and evil it was a sin when they partook against gods will and in violation of the true commandment . We are designed by God to do action only by listening ing to what he tells us and believing and following that.
That’s our design like Jesus he walked always in obedience to the fathers word and kept his commandments. We aren’t made wrong we get corrupted through lust by temptation and sin and tbat corrupts us then we’re called to repent and live or continue in sin and die. Like cain was called to repent but continued on and was exiled
We aren’t born wrong we’re born with forbidden knowledge of good and evil that isn’t meant for us we’re meant to just trust Gods judgements of good and evil and be his people and trust his word on the matter
God made mankind from the beginning and blessed and chose them to be the only creature made in his image and likeness and given dominion to rule over the earth .
Adams relationship with God was before any mediation was necassary before even melchezidek was there to intervene or mediate between God and man
“And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.”
Genesis 2:19, 21-25 KJV
if these are unacceptable “ natural man “ why has god chosen and blessed them and commanded them telling them the truth about life and death ? Places them in Eden and fellowshipped with them ? It seems more like his enemy corrupted thier thinking and led then to forbidden knoweldge that now competes for thier service and loyalty within good and evil
We aren’t created or born wrong we choose evil which is what sin is knowing what’s right and choosing the other thing we know isn’t right before God. Because we’re corrupted knowing good and evil which we aren’t supposed to we’re meant to live by what God said to us in a covenant ….like Adam and eves covenant blessed and given dominion over the earth given the freedom and information we need from him to walk and live by
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we should not be persuaded like the world to hate the jews. Why should we side with the ungodly? From the beginning, the children of Israel have been a people set apart, not for condemnation, but for God, Paul said: “To them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises” (Romans 9:4).
It is a grave error to judge a nation in the whole, for the our father searches not the multitude, but the heart of each man. “The soul that sins shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20), ,“God shows no partiality” (Romans 2:11). The evil deeds of a few must not be ascribed to the whole, lest we become like those who, cried out for Barabbas and not for Christ. Let us also remember that among the Israelites are many who confess Christ, and among the Muslims/liberals, many who do not.
It is a grave error to judge a nation in the whole, for the our father searches not the multitude, but the heart of each man. “The soul that sins shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20), ,“God shows no partiality” (Romans 2:11). The evil deeds of a few must not be ascribed to the whole, lest we become like those who, cried out for Barabbas and not for Christ. Let us also remember that among the Israelites are many who confess Christ, and among the Muslims/liberals, many who do not.
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“From the beginning, the children of Israel have been a people set apart, not for condemnation, but for God,”
It’s all flesh of all mankind that’s corrupt , Israel’s restoration isn’t through Judaism which makes a person a Jew
It’s tbrough the covenant made with Abraham concerning Christ Jesus which is the gospel. This covenant doesn’t make us Jews , it makes us Christian’s not mattering at all if our flesh is Hebrew or gentile but only nattering whether we accept Jesus or reject him
Nonone should hate jewsish people or any other people even Muslim folks shouldn’t be hated by Christian’s even our enemies shouldn’t be hated by Christian’s . It’s not “ jew hate “ or anti semitism to acknowledge that Jew and gentile means nothing anymore to God but only faith in Christ
It isnt that Israelites are removed from the new covenant it’s thier covenant made first with them but they have to accept it and stop rejecting it based on Judaism . They can’t be restored by onsercing Judaism and rejecting Jesus. They have to repent and believe the gospel.
We have to acknolwedge what Gof said would happen if they broke his covenant too and not just what he said if they kept it . The boy acinowledging what he said if they kept it , is what caused tbier eventual cursing they were told “ it doesn’t matter if we obey or not he promised us “ but what he said to them in tbier covensnt matters a lot
But he actually said to them in thier covenant this
“But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
…and thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: and they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.”
Deuteronomy 28:15, 20-22, 24, 29, 36-37, 41-42, 45-46
He promised many blessings of they obeyed his covenant but many corses like theee few examples of they broke his covenant and that’s what they did
It’s just acinowledging thier covenant to see why they have been such a persecuted and rejected and hated people for so long . The good news is any israelite can be saved if they accept Jesus he was the promised savior who would save them from the curse of the law and messenger of the promised new covenant after the broke the old one and were cursed by what’s written in it tbat they agreed to with God
a tbey have a new covenant now that doesn’t make them “ Jews “ it makes the born again and forgiven children of God filled with his spirit of they repent and believe the gospel
It’s all flesh of all mankind that’s corrupt , Israel’s restoration isn’t through Judaism which makes a person a Jew
It’s tbrough the covenant made with Abraham concerning Christ Jesus which is the gospel. This covenant doesn’t make us Jews , it makes us Christian’s not mattering at all if our flesh is Hebrew or gentile but only nattering whether we accept Jesus or reject him
Nonone should hate jewsish people or any other people even Muslim folks shouldn’t be hated by Christian’s even our enemies shouldn’t be hated by Christian’s . It’s not “ jew hate “ or anti semitism to acknowledge that Jew and gentile means nothing anymore to God but only faith in Christ
It isnt that Israelites are removed from the new covenant it’s thier covenant made first with them but they have to accept it and stop rejecting it based on Judaism . They can’t be restored by onsercing Judaism and rejecting Jesus. They have to repent and believe the gospel.
We have to acknolwedge what Gof said would happen if they broke his covenant too and not just what he said if they kept it . The boy acinowledging what he said if they kept it , is what caused tbier eventual cursing they were told “ it doesn’t matter if we obey or not he promised us “ but what he said to them in tbier covensnt matters a lot
But he actually said to them in thier covenant this
“But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
…and thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: and they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.”
Deuteronomy 28:15, 20-22, 24, 29, 36-37, 41-42, 45-46
He promised many blessings of they obeyed his covenant but many corses like theee few examples of they broke his covenant and that’s what they did
It’s just acinowledging thier covenant to see why they have been such a persecuted and rejected and hated people for so long . The good news is any israelite can be saved if they accept Jesus he was the promised savior who would save them from the curse of the law and messenger of the promised new covenant after the broke the old one and were cursed by what’s written in it tbat they agreed to with God
a tbey have a new covenant now that doesn’t make them “ Jews “ it makes the born again and forgiven children of God filled with his spirit of they repent and believe the gospel
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Exodus
Chapter 32
1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
These people
were slaves for around 400 years.
And God
the one and only
Living Holy God
sent His angel
to delivered them
from the oppression of the Egyptians.
Now mind you
these people
saw all the wonderful
mighty miracles and signs and wonders
that God did
before them all.
God did wonders to the likes
that the world had never known
or ever seen on earth.
Not only did they get to witness
all these mighty signs and wonders
of the almighty living holy God
They saw with their own 2 eyes
the red sea
part and the water wall up
on both sides and they walked
through it on dry land.
Not wet land but dry land.
Then they saw with their own 2 eyes
God destroy the Egyptian army
by drowning them in the red sea
after all of them safely crossed it to the other side.
And this is how they repaid
the one and only living Holy God
most high?
they have made them a molten calf,
and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto,
and said, These be thy gods, O Israel,
which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
Can you believe that A molten calf. And even today these same people have no shame for any of the terrible ways they treated the greatest and only God. No they believe that God is their servant and that no matter how they treat Him they are entitled to all His goodness. In fact that is all they say GOD PROMISED GOD PROMISED when their own word is so meaningless and not even worth speaking. They have never ever kept their word to God. But they expect God to keep His no matter how evil and wicked they are from even back to Moses to now. They are rotten to the core. They give nothing to God but expect everything from God. They care not for God they care nothing for Him. All they want of God is to use Him and rob Him of all His goodness.
And if that isn't enough
they murdered the Messiah Jesus Christ and they walk around us as if they didn't exist there would be no salvation of God. And wagging the finger as if they and they alone had access to God. And it was by their permission they would give us the crumbs from their leftovers or what their dogs didn't eat. And they wonder why everyone hates them?
Oh no they don't
they claim it is because they are the special chosen people of God.
Chapter 32
1 And when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down out of the mount, the people gathered themselves together unto Aaron, and said unto him, Up, make us gods, which shall go before us; for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him.
2 And Aaron said unto them, Break off the golden earrings, which are in the ears of your wives, of your sons, and of your daughters, and bring them unto me.
3 And all the people brake off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them unto Aaron.
4 And he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf: and they said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.
6 And they rose up early on the morrow, and offered burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings; and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and rose up to play.
7 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
These people
were slaves for around 400 years.
And God
the one and only
Living Holy God
sent His angel
to delivered them
from the oppression of the Egyptians.
Now mind you
these people
saw all the wonderful
mighty miracles and signs and wonders
that God did
before them all.
God did wonders to the likes
that the world had never known
or ever seen on earth.
Not only did they get to witness
all these mighty signs and wonders
of the almighty living holy God
They saw with their own 2 eyes
the red sea
part and the water wall up
on both sides and they walked
through it on dry land.
Not wet land but dry land.
Then they saw with their own 2 eyes
God destroy the Egyptian army
by drowning them in the red sea
after all of them safely crossed it to the other side.
And this is how they repaid
the one and only living Holy God
most high?
they have made them a molten calf,
and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto,
and said, These be thy gods, O Israel,
which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
Can you believe that A molten calf. And even today these same people have no shame for any of the terrible ways they treated the greatest and only God. No they believe that God is their servant and that no matter how they treat Him they are entitled to all His goodness. In fact that is all they say GOD PROMISED GOD PROMISED when their own word is so meaningless and not even worth speaking. They have never ever kept their word to God. But they expect God to keep His no matter how evil and wicked they are from even back to Moses to now. They are rotten to the core. They give nothing to God but expect everything from God. They care not for God they care nothing for Him. All they want of God is to use Him and rob Him of all His goodness.
And if that isn't enough
they murdered the Messiah Jesus Christ and they walk around us as if they didn't exist there would be no salvation of God. And wagging the finger as if they and they alone had access to God. And it was by their permission they would give us the crumbs from their leftovers or what their dogs didn't eat. And they wonder why everyone hates them?
Oh no they don't
they claim it is because they are the special chosen people of God.
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Usual, you and others overlook / ignore all the points / evidence provided - it’s only following Jesus that saves you. So, you either didn’t read it properly or don’t understand
And always come back with the same rubbish God promised / forever / everlasting - which I have dealt with previously (but conveniently ignored) - even the learned Jews don’t say forever as they know the word 'olam' doesn’t mean that.
A Couple of points before I explain the forever / everlastings.
Abraham was not a Jew, nor was Issac or Jacob (his name was Israel – not a name of a country)– the word Jew came long after.
We have Christian Jews & Arabs – from this one should understand that Jew is a race, nation not a religion.
The people were ordered to follow Abraham - Genesis 12:3 – I bless those who bless you (Abraham) – can be any race, colour or area.
Conditional – exodus 19:5-6 – “if you obey me fully and keep my covenant,..”
Jeramiah 11:10 – they have turned back going after other Gods – how could they have broken my covenant
Descendent – Most Jews of today are NOT descendants of Jacob – as I explained they are ‘Khazars’ converts to Judaism – and Ashkenazi (majority of Jews today) are from them – they have no ancestral ties to Abraham or Jacob etc and are not Semites. They are European Jews from what is now Russia, moved to eastern Europe and from there onwards.
They follow the Talmud not the Torah which they see as just historical, apart from when they want to commit Genocide.
Hence why Israel has banned DNA - what are the scared of?
Where are Abrahams MANY nations – if only one race the Jews?
Genesis 17:4–5
4 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
As to forever;
- Strong's Concordance 5769
olam: long duration, antiquity, futurity
Original Word: עוֹלָם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: olam
Phonetic Spelling: (o-lawm')
Definition: long duration, antiquity, futurity
le’olam - denotes a very long period of time, but nonetheless has an end point.
ad olam – forever (possibly)
olam - long duration, antiquity, futurity
SO NOT FOREVER
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- Jeremiah 31: 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord.
[if forever, everlasting - why a 'new convent' not like those with your ancestors?]
- Jeremiah 31: 31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord.
a conflict after one passage
Isaiah 32: 14 For the palace will be forsaken, the busy city abandoned. The hill and the watchtower will become caves forever (‘ō-w-lām)—the delight of wild donkeys and a pasture for flocks—
15 until the Spirit is poured out upon us from on high. Then the desert will be an orchard, and the orchard will seem like a forest.
SO IS IT forever or until?
Please show me where I am incorrect - Probably all will be ignored when not able to respond!
Show me where I said you don't have to follow Christ? Try reading what I said.
All kinds of people posting/trolling here. You weren't conveniently ignored.
Judaism is the religion of the Jews.
Same answer, Abrahamic covenant was uncondtional. Other verses I shared shows it was everlasting.
Been debunked a long time ago.
They have never committed genocide. Even though they have a reason to.
Took me two minutes, literally, to debunk that. Fact check FB posts is a good rule of thumb.
El Olam ... what does this term mean?
So I'm tired of repeating the same answers. Here's a question for you. How were covenants made between two people in the OT?
All kinds of people posting/trolling here. You weren't conveniently ignored.
Judaism is the religion of the Jews.
Same answer, Abrahamic covenant was uncondtional. Other verses I shared shows it was everlasting.
Been debunked a long time ago.
They have never committed genocide. Even though they have a reason to.
Took me two minutes, literally, to debunk that. Fact check FB posts is a good rule of thumb.
El Olam ... what does this term mean?
So I'm tired of repeating the same answers. Here's a question for you. How were covenants made between two people in the OT?
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Gaza, also called Azzah, is first mentioned in Genesis as one of the border cities of Canaan (Genesis 10:15–19). The city was on the border of Israel and Egypt in the southwest part of Israel near the Mediterranean Sea. Gaza is one of the oldest cities in history. The name Gaza means “strong,” which is a fitting name considering the city’s strongholds and fortifications for protection.
Gaza was a city associated with the Philistines. Originally, the Avvites lived in Gaza, but the Caphtorites displaced them and settled in the city (Deuteronomy 2:23). The Philistines were most likely identical or related to the Caphtorites, who came from Crete. The ancient Philistines had traveled to Canaan from a coastal region (Jeremiah 47:4), so it’s quite possible that they originally came from Crete.
In the time of Joshua, the Israelites conquered the land “from Kadesh Barnea to Gaza and from the whole region of Goshen to Gibeon” (Joshua 10:41). The tribe of Judah inherited Gaza, and they were able to keep the city for a short time before it fell back into the hands of the Philistines (Judges 1:18). By the time of Samson’s judgeship, the Philistines were living in and controlling Gaza (Judges 16:1). When Samson visited Gaza, the people there planned to kill him, but he escaped and carried off the city gates (Judges 16:1–3). After Delilah tricked Samson into divulging the secret of his strength, the Philistines captured him and took him to a prison in Gaza (Judges 16:21). Later, Samson regained his strength from the Lord and pushed down the pillars of Dagon’s temple, destroying the edifice and killing many Philistines in the process (Judges 16:23–30).
The Philistines continued to control Gaza during the time of Samuel (see 1 Samuel 6:17). King Hezekiah won great victories over the Philistines, “as far as Gaza and its territory,” but did not conquer Gaza itself (2 Kings 18:8).
Gaza was a city associated with judgment. Jeremiah, Amos, Zephaniah, and Zechariah all prophesied judgment on Gaza because of the sin of the Philistines. Amos 1:6–7 records God’s judgment on Gaza: “For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom. So I will send a fire upon the wall of Gaza, and it shall devour her strongholds” (ESV). Likewise, Jeremiah, Zephaniah, and Zechariah prophesied of Gaza’s destruction (Jeremiah 25:17–20; Zephaniah 2:4; Zechariah 9:5). King Sargon of Assyria conquered Gaza and probably destroyed it in 720 BC. Later, Alexander the Great destroyed the city again in 332 BC, after a lengthy battle. During the Maccabean period, Jonathan subjugated Gaza to Israel.
Gaza was a city associated with the spread of the gospel. The New Testament mentions Gaza once. An angel told Philip the evangelist to “go south to the road—the desert road—that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza” (Acts 8:26). On the road to Gaza, Philip shared the gospel with an Ethiopian eunuch and subsequently baptized him (Acts 8:26–39). A city once filled with hostility toward the Lord served as a marking point for an Ethiopian to hear of and trust in the grace of God.
The Bible associates Gaza mainly with the Philistines. God had given the city to Judah, but the Israelites had failed to obey God in driving out the former occupants of Canaan (Numbers 33:51–53). Because of that disobedience, the Philistines and the city of Gaza remained a thorn in Israel’s side for centuries (see Judges 2:3).
And Jesus answered and said....let him that is without sin cast the first stone.
Jesus siad....no man takes my life for I lay it down.
The Lord God said.....vengeance is mine I will repay.
Jesus said .....judge not least you be judged.
Jesus said.....forgive them father for they know not what they do.
Jesus said ....hatred is murder
And it is written......all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.
So my friend in a few short words of you chosing justify your hatred and relentless
attacks on the jews and the people in this forum.
Your profile says your a pastor/ pastor assistant/ something like that? I don't believe so.
Do you really think God was un aware of what has happened and what will happen. Is it right to point out anothers sin?
God created all things for his good pleasure don't you think he can and does control it.
The Lord God said...my people fail for lack of knowledge.....which you have displayed continuously.
Review the scriptures i have posted and we will await your justification.
Gaza was a city associated with the Philistines. Originally, the Avvites lived in Gaza, but the Caphtorites displaced them and settled in the city (Deuteronomy 2:23). The Philistines were most likely identical or related to the Caphtorites, who came from Crete. The ancient Philistines had traveled to Canaan from a coastal region (Jeremiah 47:4), so it’s quite possible that they originally came from Crete.
In the time of Joshua, the Israelites conquered the land “from Kadesh Barnea to Gaza and from the whole region of Goshen to Gibeon” (Joshua 10:41). The tribe of Judah inherited Gaza, and they were able to keep the city for a short time before it fell back into the hands of the Philistines (Judges 1:18). By the time of Samson’s judgeship, the Philistines were living in and controlling Gaza (Judges 16:1). When Samson visited Gaza, the people there planned to kill him, but he escaped and carried off the city gates (Judges 16:1–3). After Delilah tricked Samson into divulging the secret of his strength, the Philistines captured him and took him to a prison in Gaza (Judges 16:21). Later, Samson regained his strength from the Lord and pushed down the pillars of Dagon’s temple, destroying the edifice and killing many Philistines in the process (Judges 16:23–30).
The Philistines continued to control Gaza during the time of Samuel (see 1 Samuel 6:17). King Hezekiah won great victories over the Philistines, “as far as Gaza and its territory,” but did not conquer Gaza itself (2 Kings 18:8).
Gaza was a city associated with judgment. Jeremiah, Amos, Zephaniah, and Zechariah all prophesied judgment on Gaza because of the sin of the Philistines. Amos 1:6–7 records God’s judgment on Gaza: “For three transgressions of Gaza, and for four, I will not revoke the punishment, because they carried into exile a whole people to deliver them up to Edom. So I will send a fire upon the wall of Gaza, and it shall devour her strongholds” (ESV). Likewise, Jeremiah, Zephaniah, and Zechariah prophesied of Gaza’s destruction (Jeremiah 25:17–20; Zephaniah 2:4; Zechariah 9:5). King Sargon of Assyria conquered Gaza and probably destroyed it in 720 BC. Later, Alexander the Great destroyed the city again in 332 BC, after a lengthy battle. During the Maccabean period, Jonathan subjugated Gaza to Israel.
Gaza was a city associated with the spread of the gospel. The New Testament mentions Gaza once. An angel told Philip the evangelist to “go south to the road—the desert road—that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza” (Acts 8:26). On the road to Gaza, Philip shared the gospel with an Ethiopian eunuch and subsequently baptized him (Acts 8:26–39). A city once filled with hostility toward the Lord served as a marking point for an Ethiopian to hear of and trust in the grace of God.
The Bible associates Gaza mainly with the Philistines. God had given the city to Judah, but the Israelites had failed to obey God in driving out the former occupants of Canaan (Numbers 33:51–53). Because of that disobedience, the Philistines and the city of Gaza remained a thorn in Israel’s side for centuries (see Judges 2:3).
And Jesus answered and said....let him that is without sin cast the first stone.
Jesus siad....no man takes my life for I lay it down.
The Lord God said.....vengeance is mine I will repay.
Jesus said .....judge not least you be judged.
Jesus said.....forgive them father for they know not what they do.
Jesus said ....hatred is murder
And it is written......all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.
So my friend in a few short words of you chosing justify your hatred and relentless
attacks on the jews and the people in this forum.
Your profile says your a pastor/ pastor assistant/ something like that? I don't believe so.
Do you really think God was un aware of what has happened and what will happen. Is it right to point out anothers sin?
God created all things for his good pleasure don't you think he can and does control it.
The Lord God said...my people fail for lack of knowledge.....which you have displayed continuously.
Review the scriptures i have posted and we will await your justification.
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Even though this annihilation sounds brutal and like the act of a Dictator we must remember about several ancient peoples is what was the meaning of their existence. When God sent the Flood in Noah's Day we had the demonic union bloodline of Fallen Angels and humanity. That bloodline survived the Flood through one of the sons of Noah's wives in the Ark. That bloodline never represented God's perfect Creation even though it became contaminated with sin.
After the Flood we read where David was still dealing with that bloodline in the form of Goliath. But several people's from the ancient days represented themselves as both enemies of God and a type of sin we battle to this very day.
So even though the elimination of them reads like a horrendous act it's literally no different than how we battle the flesh and temptations in our walk in God striving for perfection.
Paul even explains this purging by instructing that each day he kills his flesh.
After the Flood we read where David was still dealing with that bloodline in the form of Goliath. But several people's from the ancient days represented themselves as both enemies of God and a type of sin we battle to this very day.
So even though the elimination of them reads like a horrendous act it's literally no different than how we battle the flesh and temptations in our walk in God striving for perfection.
Paul even explains this purging by instructing that each day he kills his flesh.
