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“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
Isaiah 65:17
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:10, 13 KJV
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
Revelation 21:1-2 KJV
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
Hebrews 11:13-14, 16
this world were in now is for this purpose
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
2 Peter 3:7 KJV
It he’s been promising a new place for his people For a very long time in the ot he’s often talking about the earth he’s going to make like here
“For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.”
Isaiah 66:22 KJV
My point is your right no one has ever been to the promised land yet the first one is desolate and will never be where zgod sets up his kingdom it’s scheduled for a fiery end with the whole earth
Isaiah 65:17
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
2 Peter 3:10, 13 KJV
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”
Revelation 21:1-2 KJV
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
Hebrews 11:13-14, 16
this world were in now is for this purpose
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
2 Peter 3:7 KJV
It he’s been promising a new place for his people For a very long time in the ot he’s often talking about the earth he’s going to make like here
“For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.”
Isaiah 66:22 KJV
My point is your right no one has ever been to the promised land yet the first one is desolate and will never be where zgod sets up his kingdom it’s scheduled for a fiery end with the whole earth
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“My kingdom Is not of this world “
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”( that’s the promised land )
2 Peter 3:7, 10, 13 KJV
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
Hebrews 11:13-14, 16 KJV
Not this place
“the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
bit this place
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
Revelation 21:1
his promises are about his promises and the land he’s promised that can’t be defiled by sin like this place was
“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
Isaiah 65:17
Its not going to happen on this earth look on the nt bro there’s never anything at all about being promised tbat Israel’s going to be restored on this earth before Christ returns or when he returns
really look Into it they tell us the world will end suddenly and in fire and that God has a new earth prepared for believers but they never say anything about israel Needing to be restored only that they would be desolate and scattered into the earth because of the breaking of tbier covenant
Don’t you think the New Testament would have mentioned that part of Israel’s restoration on earth ? I o ow someone might wuote from revelation but I’m talking about the doctrine letters why were t they assuring anyone “ Israel’s land is going to be given back to them before jesus comes ? If they did I’d love for someone to show me those verses because I could learn something new sincerely
“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”( that’s the promised land )
2 Peter 3:7, 10, 13 KJV
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
Hebrews 11:13-14, 16 KJV
Not this place
“the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”
bit this place
“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
Revelation 21:1
his promises are about his promises and the land he’s promised that can’t be defiled by sin like this place was
“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
Isaiah 65:17
Its not going to happen on this earth look on the nt bro there’s never anything at all about being promised tbat Israel’s going to be restored on this earth before Christ returns or when he returns
really look Into it they tell us the world will end suddenly and in fire and that God has a new earth prepared for believers but they never say anything about israel Needing to be restored only that they would be desolate and scattered into the earth because of the breaking of tbier covenant
Don’t you think the New Testament would have mentioned that part of Israel’s restoration on earth ? I o ow someone might wuote from revelation but I’m talking about the doctrine letters why were t they assuring anyone “ Israel’s land is going to be given back to them before jesus comes ? If they did I’d love for someone to show me those verses because I could learn something new sincerely
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Yeah we can always learn from scripture and be willing to humbly change our mind though about things I used to think a lot of different things too used to believe what they believe about Israel being restored esrthly and a new temple being built ect but then later through studying scripture it’s pretty plainly shown ( at least in my opinion ) that that’s not the case and his kingdom has nothing to do with any earthly land we’ve seen yet . When o realized he gave us a promised land in the gospel to look forward to it changes my opinion
I’m just saying we don’t know something u til we hear it and accept it
I’m just saying we don’t know something u til we hear it and accept it
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One side includes all men and women in Christ - be they Jews or Gentiles - as the Israel of God: The many becoming One, regardless of physical DNA, in the One: Christ Who was given to the world.
The other side separates Christ into two parts: one Jew one Gentile. Let's go to the apostle Paul to see what he has to say about that...
"Is Christ divided?"
Thank you, Paul.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program...
The other side separates Christ into two parts: one Jew one Gentile. Let's go to the apostle Paul to see what he has to say about that...
"Is Christ divided?"
Thank you, Paul.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program...
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Paul is such a party pooper to dispensational unbelief.
Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, Romans 4:16
Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Galatians 3:7
Rom 11:23
And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in; for God is able to graft them in again.
Zech 12:10
“And I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and of pleading, so that they will look at Me whom they pierced; and they will mourn for Him, like one mourning for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.
btw in case you are Jewish according to rabbinical tradition and aren't already a citizen of Israel, you could not become a citizen of Israel because they deny aliyah to Jewish believers in Christ. This was stated in a video posted in this thread by a mesianic Jew in Israel whose friend was denied aliyah because they discovered she believes in Christ. And if you are a citizen of Israel you will probably be stripped of citizenship someday because you say you believe in Christ.