Trumps gonna win.

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Cameron143 said:
Sure. Revelation is the bookend of Deuteronomy in the which God ends the covenant He began with Israel because of Israel's failure to uphold the covenant.
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Dont agree. The old covenant ended at the cross. It is finished has a few meanings other than just Jesus' life on earth. The old covenant and the priests standing between ordinary folks and God to name two other meanings. Bruising Satans head is another.
 
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SonJudgment said:
I saw the original the other day and thought of you immediately as you tuned me into Benny Johnson last Summer. Ha ha cheers, this is actually tuning into big news and going quite viral, your boy Benny might have just destroyed AOC's presidential ambitions. Praise Jesus how the truth destroys the liars. Carpetbaggers and grifters, such is the democrat party.

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Saw somthing similar. Seems the "tough Bronx girl" is middle class after all. Cant stand her never been able too.
 
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DeanM said:
Dont agree. The old covenant ended at the cross. It is finished has a few meanings other than just Jesus' life on earth. The old covenant and the priests standing between ordinary folks and God to name two other meanings. Bruising Satans head is another.
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Read Hebrews...it was waning. Ask yourself this as well...what did God promise would happen to Israel for failure to keep the covenant? Did God just end the covenant without fulfilling what He said He would do?
 
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DeanM said:
Good plan. But then im a guy that thinks bringing back chain gangs is a good idea. Dont know when prisons became hotels but here we are.
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Prisons in Texas don't even have AC other than in the offices https://www.texastribune.org/2025/05/15/texas-AC-prison-heat-summer/#:~:text=Still, about two-thirds of Texas' prison inmates,water in an attempt to cool off. that's for U.S. citizens though. On the other hand there's the resort hotel referred to as Alligator Alcatraz which opens Wednesday which offers 24/7 fully air-conditioned,included is a recreation area, full medical service along with members of the clergy for religious comfort. https://www.wesh.com/article/alliga...igration-detention-center-everglades/65269032
 
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Eli1 said:
Right.
So the next guy will need to push harder and harder and harder until maybe someone might say?
Hey guys, let's take it down a notch and maybe let's do what's best for the country.
Until then ... weeeeee enjoy the ride brother!
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The ride might end up being those 17million people voting in the mid-term elections though which was why they were told not to go too wild because they still need to get re-elected. Will they vote blue or red after loosing their benefits time will tell. Weeee enjoy the ride brother.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Read Hebrews...it was waning. Ask yourself this as well...what did God promise would happen to Israel for failure to keep the covenant? Did God just end the covenant without fulfilling what He said He would do?
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He scattered Israel in 70AD. He did what he promised Israel. More than once before Christ ended it with his sacrifice. Or do you think Israel is under the old covenant today? Only those who dont accept Jesus as the Christ think they are under it.
 
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Squigglylines said:
The ride might end up being those 17million people voting in the mid-term elections though which was why they were told not to go too wild because they still need to get re-elected. Will they vote blue or red after loosing their benefits time will tell. Weeee enjoy the ride brother.
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No American citizen is losing benefits. Besides Trump has been going to start WW3 since 2016. So benefits will be a thing of the past when that happens, right?
 
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DeanM said:
No American citizen is losing benefits. Besides Trump has been going to start WW3 since 2016. So benefits will be a thing of the past when that happens, right?
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yep, " trump is going to start ww3 " is just like iran has been " 2 weeks away from having a nuke" since '03..
 
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DeanM said:
Dont agree. The old covenant ended at the cross. It is finished has a few meanings other than just Jesus' life on earth. The old covenant and the priests standing between ordinary folks and God to name two other meanings. Bruising Satans head is another.
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Hebrews made it very clear that it did not end at the cross. It was written years after the cross and at that time it was "near to passing away". So no, the cross did not end it.

According to the Old Covenant Jesus would come as the Messiah and He did come as the Passover lamb, but the Old Covenant also describes Him coming as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. So they, like you and me, will get a second chance. That is what second Passover is all about. They were defiled by the dead religion of the Pharisees and Sadducees but that doesn't mean they don't get a second chance.
 
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DeanM said:
No American citizen is losing benefits. Besides Trump has been going to start WW3 since 2016. So benefits will be a thing of the past when that happens, right?
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must have been a big thing here in the forum back in 2016 about Trump starting ww3 but I must have missed it because I wasn't a member back then. I'll back date what I would have said "what when I was a kid it was Kennedy and the Johnson and then each and every President over my whole life. I bet someone else from another country starts it and leaves the U.S. Presidents just scrambling to defend themselves." The House of Representatives has the bill now and Trump is who told them not to go too hog wild they still need to get re-elected.
 
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DeanM said:
He scattered Israel in 70AD. He did what he promised Israel. More than once before Christ ended it with his sacrifice. Or do you think Israel is under the old covenant today? Only those who dont accept Jesus as the Christ think they are under it.
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The old covenant is gone now, but it wasn't fully over until 70AD when God destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. That finished the sanctions God had promised in Deuteronomy for their unfaithfulness to the covenant. God can't simply end a covenant without fulfilling all the terms of the covenant.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The old covenant is gone now, but it wasn't fully over until 70AD when God destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. That finished the sanctions God had promised in Deuteronomy for their unfaithfulness to the covenant. God can't simply end a covenant without fulfilling all the terms of the covenant.
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Paul said something along the lines that, by nature, the gentiles keep the law. Since Gentiles were never bound by the old covenant, then what is the significance of the new covenant incorporating them into Israel?
 
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Cameron143 said:
The old covenant is gone now, but it wasn't fully over until 70AD when God destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. That finished the sanctions God had promised in Deuteronomy for their unfaithfulness to the covenant. God can't simply end a covenant without fulfilling all the terms of the covenant.
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that doctrine has no Biblical support, simply based human guesses
 
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ZNP said:
that doctrine has no Biblical support, simply based human guesses
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Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Luke 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

We must all appear before the Judgement seat of Christ and unbelievers before the Great White throne. The law is the basis of that judgment. According to that law if you receive Jesus Christ as your sin offering He will be your righteousness.

The law is a direct reference to the law of Moses and in that law it tells you about sin offerings, trespass offerings and peace offerings. If you receive Jesus Christ He is your peace offering. But the judgment on those who have not received Him will not take place until the Great White throne.

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Jesus did not do away with the Law, He fulfilled it.
 
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ZNP said:
that doctrine has no Biblical support, simply based human guesses
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@shittim Instead of giving the red x, why not provide the Bible verses, that is how you would prove this is not true.

This whole doctrine is completely debunked by the book of Revelation which was written n 95 AD. That obliterates the doctrine. The only way around that is to ignore all of the overwhelming evidence and make the baseless claim that it was written prior to 70 AD.

The proponents of this doctrine admit as much saying the evidence that Revelation was written prior to 70 AD is the doctrine, because if it is written after it debunks their doctrine.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
 
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