Understanding God’s election
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Deuteronomy 21
18 “If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and who, when they have chastened him, will not heed them, 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
Gobbeldegoop's version: God-loving parents is the beginning of wisdom.
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God made it abundantly clear that He draws ALL men to Himself.
And God made it abundantly clear that WHOSEVER believes in the Lord Jesus shall be saved.
Equal privilege , equal opportunity for ALL.
The calvies deter unbelievers from salvation.
The armies deter believers from advancing in their ETERNAL salvation.
And God made it abundantly clear that WHOSEVER believes in the Lord Jesus shall be saved.
Equal privilege , equal opportunity for ALL.
The calvies deter unbelievers from salvation.
The armies deter believers from advancing in their ETERNAL salvation.
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Knowing God exists through the work of His hands (creation) is a far cry from understanding the gospel.
The natural man knows God exists through creation, which proclaims His glory.
Still, the natural man cannot comprehend the spiritual things of God.
He can not even receive them.
I wonder what it is about those Biblical truths that get people so riled up.
Things like the natural man being hostile in his mind toward God.
Free willers absolutely hate that Bible truth.
Being taken captive to the will of the devil, being a lover of darkness and a slave of sin, supressing the truth in unrighteousness, unable to obey... yeah, the list goes on and on and can get quite long but free willers contradict all of them.
The natural man knows God exists through creation, which proclaims His glory.
Still, the natural man cannot comprehend the spiritual things of God.
He can not even receive them.
I wonder what it is about those Biblical truths that get people so riled up.
Things like the natural man being hostile in his mind toward God.
Free willers absolutely hate that Bible truth.
Being taken captive to the will of the devil, being a lover of darkness and a slave of sin, supressing the truth in unrighteousness, unable to obey... yeah, the list goes on and on and can get quite long but free willers contradict all of them.
“And he ( Jesus ) said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-
He suffered and died for our sins and then sent out witnesses to everyone that’s how he draws all men to himself
By the truth of the gospel
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.”
John 12:32-33
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-
He suffered and died for our sins and then sent out witnesses to everyone that’s how he draws all men to himself
By the truth of the gospel
“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die.”
John 12:32-33
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Well, I have never made such a claim, and you repeatedly pretending I have simply proves what I have
said all along about you ~ You misrepresent what others believe. You have been doing that since you
entered these convos late last year claiming that people were not misrepresenting what others believe,
and you continue doing it because you refuse correction. You simply are not interested in the truth, and
that is sad. You are in love with your lies.
said all along about you ~ You misrepresent what others believe. You have been doing that since you
entered these convos late last year claiming that people were not misrepresenting what others believe,
and you continue doing it because you refuse correction. You simply are not interested in the truth, and
that is sad. You are in love with your lies.