Did Jesus save those who ultimately hated Him?

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Mouse_Cheeks

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Pilgrimshope said:
Right he already sent the call out through his chosen and annointed witnesses to all His creation.

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

In the gospel is Gods call to all sinners

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

at the judgement no one can say “ I’m lost because God didn’t call me “ but it will be because they wouldn’t respond to his invitation.

“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s why the gospel is preached to all creation God has declared his mercy to all who repent and believe the gospel offering remission of sins in his name. If I hear about it and scoff it is t that I want able to respond it’s that I’m interested in other things instead and don’t believe it
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Yes. And Jesus also said prior to sending out his Apostles on the Great Commission, the ability to understand the Good News has to be given to people before they could understand.

1 Corinthians 2 reiterates that.
 
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Intersection said:
It is impossible for those who ultimately hate Jesus to come to Him.
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Word games. Saul/Paul HATED him, with a dedicated religious passion - until. "Kicking against the goads" implies the actions of the Holy Spirit in nudging Saul in the right direction.

Whatever you mean by "Ultimately" is the key to the discussion.
 
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Kroogz

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Night-Twister being unable to answer that question shows everybody on Christian Chat his inner-self.
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For many of us. It shows the true colors of the one asking the question.

I am saved. But if I am operating in the flesh and out of fellowship with the Spirit. One could rightly say I hate the Lord Jesus Christ.

What is your definition of Hate?

What is the Bible's definition of hate?

In what context do you mean hate?

A loaded question is cocked and ready for the kill.
 
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Kroogz said:
For many of us. It shows the true colors of the one asking the question.

I am saved. But if I am operating in the flesh and out of fellowship with the Spirit. One could rightly say I hate the Lord Jesus Christ.

What is your definition of Hate?

What is the Bible's definition of hate?

In what context do you mean hate?

A loaded question is cocked and ready for the kill.
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Those who ultimately hate Jesus go to hell.
 
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Bob-Carabbio said:
Word games. Saul/Paul HATED him, with a dedicated religious passion - until. "Kicking against the goads" implies the actions of the Holy Spirit in nudging Saul in the right direction.

Whatever you mean by "Ultimately" is the key to the discussion.
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Kroogz

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Those who ultimately hate Jesus go to hell.
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So, In your neck of the woods......Who do you have in mind that "ultimately" hate Jesus?

Who is in your mind when you make that statement?
 
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Mouse_Cheeks said:
Yes. And Jesus also said prior to sending out his Apostles on the Great Commission, the ability to understand the Good News has to be given to people before they could understand.

1 Corinthians 2 reiterates that.
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Ok
 
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Jesus said the wide road leads to destruction so most people go to hell and are not saved.
 
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Night-Twister not answering the question multiple times is his continual dark testimony.
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It is rather interesting the refusal to answer, since eternal conscious torment (ECT) which is associated with "Hell" either rightly or wrongly is typically considered part of the classic, traditional creed of Christianity. :unsure:

But I do think that you have not adequately defined what you mean by "hell."
 
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HeIsHere said:
It is rather interesting the refusal to answer, since eternal conscious torment (ECT) which is associated with "Hell" either rightly or wrongly is typically considered part of the classic, traditional creed of Christianity. :unsure:

But I do think that you have not adequately defined what you mean by "hell."
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Hell is eternal separation from God.
 
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