Understanding God’s election
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How did you cross connect that?
The Holy Spirit grants the gifts but how you exercise those gifts is up to you.
I can show you a plethora of Christians that live without any love towards others whatsoever.
It is by far the most impossible gift (agape love) to generate towards others.
Inquisitors battle daily with love and God's justice.
Read Romans 5:5.
I bet you can't show me 1 Christian that lives without exercising love towards others whatsoever. They might call themselves Christians, but if the love of God is not shed abroad in their hearts, they aren't.
And the Spirit is the one who exercises the gifts through the Christian. Otherwise, how would you know what your gifts are until they are exercised.
Not anymore no, for awhile under the law punishments would reach to the third and fourth generation but not now in tbe nt , Christ is personal to each and each will be only accountable for what they themselves do and say . And also accounts ring for the law of liberty
“So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.”
James 2:12-13 KJV
“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Luke 6:36-38 KJV
Also we can’t judge each other because of that , only Jesus can.
“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God.
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
Romans 14:10-12 KJV
Plus they love their lies and mislabelling people. They prefer their erroneous
assumptions and jumping to wrong conclusions and bearing false witness.
I doubt I have ever seen those who go around accusing others of being Calvies testify. But those who I have seen
being accused of being Calvies even when they say they are not? Yes, I have seen plenty of testimony from them.
Praising God. You know actually that is what is missing from the free will crowd: they give themselves the credit.
Well, in the OT punishment was viewed in temporal terms such as poverty and physical death,
and the effects of sin are indeed often generational in those ways,
but the NT revelation was that each soul is judged fairly/individually,
and justice is meted out in the afterlife.
Was Lot righteous?
He offered his virgin daughters to be gang raped by the men of Sodom. And this was because those men arrived at Lot's door demanding he bring out his male visitors, angels unbeknownst to them,so that those men may "know them". Which was a way of saying,have sex with them.
Lot doesn't sound very righteous in doing that. And apparently God agreed. Because he destroyed both cities. After telling Abraham he would spare them were 1 righteous person to be found there.
The author of 2nd Peter had a very low bar for what qualifies as righteous.