What is sexually immoral in marriage?

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in case no one posted anything. I believe God taught me something one time when I was looking for something specific in regards to self-pleasure and what I believe he led me to believe and has worked for me in keeping me on the right track was: "any deviation from what Adam and Eve did at the beginning--they did not have all that society has introduced outside of that so anything outside of normal sexual relations would be sexually immoral.
 

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in case no one posted anything. I believe God taught me something one time when I was looking for something specific in regards to self-pleasure and what I believe he led me to believe and has worked for me in keeping me on the right track was: "any deviation from what Adam and Eve did at the beginning--they did not have all that society has introduced outside of that so anything outside of normal sexual relations would be sexually immoral.
How do we know definitively that Adam and Eve DIDN'T do other sexual acts? I agree that often times we get things put in our head by society (be it good or bad), but your point has a huge presupposition, doesn't it?

So far, I think the most compelling case is that other activities could cause cancer/be a detriment to our health. Surely God wouldn't create "good" things for us which causes these types of health risks, but I guess that sort of is putting God in a box.
 
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How do we know definitively that Adam and Eve DIDN'T do other sexual acts? I agree that often times we get things put in our head by society (be it good or bad), but your point has a huge presupposition, doesn't it?

So far, I think the most compelling case is that other activities could cause cancer/be a detriment to our health. Surely God wouldn't create "good" things for us which causes these types of health risks, but I guess that sort of is putting God in a box.
Good point.... if we're gonna stick with the whole "Adam and Eve only" idea, that probly rules out anything indoors. 😏
 

Smoke

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I dunno... God also created various fruits, but they can cause diabetes.
Fair point. Even drinking too much water could cause hyponatremia which could be deadly. But then this sounds like an argument for "moderation in all things", perhaps including, extracurricular sexual activities? I guess I'm still unconvinced it's morally wrong, but an argument has been made it could be detrimental to our health.
 

Lynx

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Fair point. Even drinking too much water could cause hyponatremia which could be deadly. But then this sounds like an argument for "moderation in all things", perhaps including, extracurricular sexual activities? I guess I'm still unconvinced it's morally wrong, but an argument has been made it could be detrimental to our health.
I subscribe to the school of philosophy taught by the doctor on Hee Haw.

"Doc when I do this (rotates shoulder clockwise) It hurts."

"If it hurts, don't do it."

I've never tried some of those things y'all are talking about, but I have heard they hurt. So I'm not going to do them.
 

Lynx

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Of course the same doctor had other, much less helpful advice.

"Hey doc, when I pee it burns."

"Well... Don't light it."
 
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I'm just going to be blunt. Is everything outside of intercourse sexually immoral in a marriage bed? Please use only Biblical based reasoning (with verses provided) to prove your response. Please no personal opinions.

Hebrews 13:4 (KJV) seems to indicate that the marriage bed is undefiled, meaning anything goes (I assume within reason). Is this the correct interpretation?
"But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none," 1 Corinthians 7:29

The believer's duty is to the Lord, not himself. Yes, the marriage bed is undefiled, but that doesn't mean anything goes.

What I'm about to say is my own opinion only. The purpose of sexual relations between men and women in marriage is procreation and intimacy. Under normal circumstances, it also tends to reduce lustful cravings. Sometimes though, people bring into their marriage unhealthy sexual behavior and think it's okay now that they're married. In the above scripture, Paul is saying marriage is not an excuse for unbridled sexual activity; those who are married still have to exercise self-control and make the Lord their first priority.

I knew a guy once who before he got married had a bad porn and self-gratification problem. As soon as he got married he started buying his wife all kinds of "sexy" clothing and lingerie. What he essentially did was trade his porn fantasies for a wife. He was still self-gratifying in his marriage; makes intimacy a little difficult. That's not supposed to be how it works for a believer. Situations like this seldom end well; the man will eventually look for more stimulation outside his marriage.

Use your own discretion. Like many things in the Christian walk, the question must be asked: Does this please the Lord or myself?
 
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in case no one posted anything. I believe God taught me something one time when I was looking for something specific in regards to self-pleasure and what I believe he led me to believe and has worked for me in keeping me on the right track was: "any deviation from what Adam and Eve did at the beginning--they did not have all that society has introduced outside of that so anything outside of normal sexual relations would be sexually immoral.
The question remains - what did Adam and Eve do in the beginning?
 
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I can name a ton but I don’t want to be “that guy.”
I really don't think you have to sit this one out.

Not when we've got one lady, arguably two, who'd annul the common law of outraging public decency (public indecency in the US) to keep things al fresco, like Adam & Eve! :D
 
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I really don't think you have to sit this one out.

Not when we've got one lady, arguably two, who'd annul the common law of outraging public decency (public indecency in the US) to keep things al fresco, like Adam & Eve! :D
I'm just trying to be a good Christian, unlike some of you heathens who would rather follow the rules of men than the word of God! 😇😜
 

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I really don't think you have to sit this one out. Not when we've got one lady, arguably two, who'd annul the common law of outraging public decency (public indecency in the US) to keep things al fresco, like Adam & Eve! :D

Kainos has officially ruined the term "al fresco" for me forever.

Now whenever I read phrases like "dining al fresco," I'm going to think of this thread -- and probably burst into laughter. :cautious::cool::ROFL:
 

Lynx

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I'm just trying to be a good Christian, unlike some of you heathens who would rather follow the rules of men than the word of God! 😇😜
Bad idea. Bad idea!

Even atheists know it's a bad idea. It sounds good on paper, to carnal people, but in practice even non-Christians don't like it. Lots of cankles. Lots of misspelled tats.