Walking in the Spirit

[Gideon300]

Much is made of obedience and following God's commandments. The problem is not so much what to do as how. For example, there is conjecture as to what it means to obey the commandments. It seems to me that it is clear that there are many more commandments than the 10 given to Moses. Many of the Levitical commandments are impossible to obey, as there is no tabernacle, no priesthood or temple. And the Law was given to Israel anyway. Is this not a recipe for confusion?

For example, one commandment is for children to honour their father and mother. The NT add, parents do not provoke your children to anger (Ephesians 6:4). You could be following the 10 commandments to the letter and still be disobeying God.

We are commanded to "walk in the Spirit". If we are doing this, we will bear fruit that is acceptable to God. Note the word "bear". Paul contrasts this with "works" of the flesh. It is possible to be working with all our strength, only to be piling up dead works.

Fruit trees do not work. They cannot. The farmer has to prune and fertilise the tree to get the best from it. Jesus described Himself as the Vine ad we who believe the branches. All we need to do is to live in the vine, to stay attached, so to speak. When we are in this state, the life that is in the "Vine" flows through us and fruit is the result. God takes care of the branches. The same life that is in Christ is therefore in us as long as we stay connected.

Legalism separates us from Christ (Galatians 5:4)

"You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

So for those who are attempting to be justified by following the Law, all they have is dead works. God is not pleased. Only what is of His Son is pleasing to God.

So how do we walk in the Spirit? It is by the exercise of our will. If we do not choose to walk in the Spirit, we are choosing the works of the flesh. No matter how good our intentions, we will surely fail.

We need to see that we are sanctified, which means to be set apart for a holy purpose. God already set us apart. He calls us now to live in the truth. If we will accept the Lordship of Christ and follow His leading, like the Vine dresser prunes the vine, so God will cleanse and purge us so that we bear fruit. Start each day by committing your ways to Christ and inviting Him to take complete control. Then live secure in the knowledge that you are safe and secure in Christ, trusting Him to keep you in His keeping power.

 

[Edify]

All things are possible to them that believe. If only we were bold enough to max out on the promises of God.

 

[GWH]

Much is made of obedience and following God's commandments. The problem is not so much what to do as how. For example, there is conjecture as to what it means to obey the commandments. It seems to me that it is clear that there are many more commandments than the 10 given to Moses. Many of the Levitical commandments are impossible to obey, as there is no tabernacle, no priesthood or temple. And the Law was given to Israel anyway. Is this not a recipe for confusion?

For example, one commandment is for children to honour their father and mother. The NT add, parents do not provoke your children to anger (Ephesians 6:4). You could be following the 10 commandments to the letter and still be disobeying God.

We are commanded to "walk in the Spirit". If we are doing this, we will bear fruit that is acceptable to God. Note the word "bear". Paul contrasts this with "works" of the flesh. It is possible to be working with all our strength, only to be piling up dead works.

Fruit trees do not work. They cannot. The farmer has to prune and fertilise the tree to get the best from it. Jesus described Himself as the Vine ad we who believe the branches. All we need to do is to live in the vine, to stay attached, so to speak. When we are in this state, the life that is in the "Vine" flows through us and fruit is the result. God takes care of the branches. The same life that is in Christ is therefore in us as long as we stay connected.

Legalism separates us from Christ (Galatians 5:4)

"You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

So for those who are attempting to be justified by following the Law, all they have is dead works. God is not pleased. Only what is of His Son is pleasing to God.

So how do we walk in the Spirit? It is by the exercise of our will. If we do not choose to walk in the Spirit, we are choosing the works of the flesh. No matter how good our intentions, we will surely fail.

We need to see that we are sanctified, which means to be set apart for a holy purpose. God already set us apart. He calls us now to live in the truth. If we will accept the Lordship of Christ and follow His leading, like the Vine dresser prunes the vine, so God will cleanse and purge us so that we bear fruit. Start each day by committing your ways to Christ and inviting Him to take complete control. Then live secure in the knowledge that you are safe and secure in Christ, trusting Him to keep you in His keeping power.

Yes, "if we will accept the Lordship of Christ and follow His leading, then live secure in the knowledge that you are safe and secure in Christ."
(Amen :^)

 

[homwardbound]

I see this the word bear, not bare
Abide in risen Son, the tree of life for us ll to be I and live forever in God Father's Spirit and Truth, stress to do, now relived to see new and love all as in Father's mercy and truth of Son for us to stand in, no matter what troubles happen
Wow, can we, I have so far, and not always either, many failures many. And Father never has left me, has Father left anyone? Or is it religion that has done that to you too, failing and admitting it and then got berated over it. That is religion that I see will never please Father to me at least
Any tree planted grows up and bears its fruit correct? An Orange tree bears oranges
God bears Love and mercy for all to us all by Son on the cursed tree that reversed the first curse of Adam and Eve.
To bear fruit
and not be bare fruit
I see abide in the risen Son in the love and mercy given us by his done work for us to bear fruit
Not produce fruit, that be what our first born birth in nature does, it tries and is taught to try to produce fruit and have the attitude to be, get accepted in by people around them

God produces the fruit, we are the bearers of that fruit, at least this I now know after going through under Law that beset me deeply in trying to do, what I now see \"I" can't do, anyone else see this too? fighting to not sin and continue in sin, not seeing by trying not to sin is what is keeping you trapped in sin Romans 7
Read 6-8 chapters and trust Father to reveal truth to you, if you are sincere, then Father will reveal truth to you and you will agree and see to not do, by quitting trying to not do, you then do without taking any credit to self. Thanking Father and Son as One (Won) for you too

 

[GWH]

The unstable or immature phase in a Christian’s spiritual relationship with God is followed eventually (and hopefully soon) by a second phase of relative perfection or maturity signified in the Bible (especially the King James Version) by the phrase “walking with God”. Genesis 5:24 describes Enoch as a man who walked with God, and the apostle Paul described the goal of Christians (the fullness of Christ) as walking with God (RM 6:4, GL 5:16, EPH 4:1, 1THS 4:1). Elsewhere the continually (ideally) Spirit-filled condition is referred to as walking: in light (1JN 1:7), in love (EPH 5:2), in a new life (RM 6:4), according to the Spirit (RM 8:4), and in good works (CL 1:10).

The outward evidence that someone is Spirit-filled (EPH 5:18) or walking with God is the manifestation of the fruit of the Spirit or fullness of Christ (EPH 3:19, 4:13), which consists of such attributes as those listed in Galatians 5:22-23: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Jesus said “All men will know that you are my disciples if you love one another” (JN13:35), because “love” sums up the moral character of God (1JN 4:7-8).

Like physical walking, spiritual walking has two steps. Another apt analogy is the act of breathing. The meaning of both analogies is simply communion or communication with God’s Holy Spirit. The first step or inhale is listening to God (LGW), and the second step or exhale is responding to or cooperating with God. God’s message for mankind is revealed partially by the world He has created but more fully by the Scriptures He has inspired. The crux of God’s Word is the Gospel of salvation (kerygma), while the secondary teachings (didache) consist of the manifold applications of the law of love (1JN 3:11, cf. Part I).

The Believer’s main types of responses to God’s Word are prayer to God and good works unto others for God (cf. 1JN 4:20, EPH 2:10). The kerygmatic prayer that is necessary in order for a sinner be saved and walk with God is confession (1JN 1:9, PS 32:1-5). Prayer is simply talking to God. From the moment of repentance onward, whenever a Believer acknowledges to God his/her known sins of immoral attitudes and actions, God forgives all sins (1JN 1:9b). This means he/she is pleasing rather than grieving God or once again is Spirit-filled (walking in the Spirit) and has a right relationship with Christ Jesus (EPH 4:30, 5:10 & 18).

 

[homwardbound]

whenever a Believer acknowledges to God his/her known sins of immoral attitudes and actions, God forgives all sins (1JN 1:9b).

Noting this, you are saying, and please correct me, if I am wrong?
You just said in that statement above, "unless" one, anyone repents and asks God to forgive them again or even acknowledge sin, God will not accept them or forgive them? (out of fellowship)
Is Christ the Son, ever going to come back and die all over again, or is it done by him once for us all? to choose to believe or not consciously?
Settle it within self to hear from God not others, not even me please, and be new in God's Love and mercy for you to get given to us all through Son's death as reconciled (2 Cor 5:17-20), which only forgives, does not give new life yet, just reconciled first in the willing death of Son for us all to believe or not believe. thank you (Hebrews 10:10-13)

How does 1 John 1:9, compare to God in Son that took away all sin at the cross of Son in his last time shedding of blood? that being the only verse misinterpreted against at least forty other scripture verses that claim are past tense forgiven, even before anyone here now that were not there then, it is finished it is done for us to be made new between God and you not me and you or any other religion either. It is a personal relationship between Daddy and you by Son for you that makes you as if you never sinned (Col 1:21-23)
There is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood, re-read the first old testament. Shed blood had to get done once a year as an atonement for sin.
Christ in his done work took away sin (John1:29) (John 19:30) , no more atonement. God fulfilled the law for us to be made righteous before Father as if we never sinned, amazing!
even though we all know we have, have we not? Anyone perfect out there reading this?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, y'all God loves you and continues to love you in God's mercy and truth of Son for you all too, that is done for you to get in you and see it, believe it, receive it and not sin anymore eventually, how??????????????????????/

By getting too, busy praising Father and Son as won for you personally too. And there will be many bad habits in you, that will eventually disappear if you do not give up on this truth God is telling you to see and choose to either believe it or not consciously. If you are getting pride in you over any thought you got it, then it is you trying to do it under Law and in pride making you a person better than others as revealed in (Luke 18:9-14)

As a person focuses, that person is, and one does as one thinks to do, and no other flesh but Son's flesh can please Father, which is done for us all to stand in belief to see eventually, once not giving up. You under Law to do to get or keep is a lie from evil to keep you in sin. Romans 7. Under Law, how you doing, are you winning. and stopping sin? a lot back and forth, doing it then not. Correct, neither could I, and see to not be under Law as in Romans 7:10 tells me about that. how it has crept in and kept me sinning again and again and again over and over, any of y'all too?
How about give that up under Law that keeps you sinning over and over again as we each know we have each done, never settling it within ourselves it is finished as Jesus said that in John 19:30
What is finished, have you ever asked Father in risen Son Jesus that?
The fulfillment of Law for you?
Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Then one does new without anymore pride or guilt anymore, the done work of Son working through them over the self that religion teaches to do to get in or to stay in after belief to the risen Son for you

Believe, receive and see sin leave you, one sin at a time, not all at once. Now that might take awhile to happen, yet continue please to see this Col 1:21-23 please
Yet continued belief to God it is done for you to be new will happen in and through you too, if you will not let go of this trust to God it is done for you too.
Oh and I am not claiming me to be perfect ever. I claiming God is perfect for us to be new in love and mercy to all, so, busy with this truth, no time to sin again as have when was trying not to sin, I attest to this and give God all the credit your turn between God snd you too, thank you

 

[GWH]

Noting this, you are saying, and please correct me, if I am wrong?
You just said in that statement above, "unless" one, anyone repents and asks God to forgive them again or even acknowledge sin, God will not accept them or forgive them? (out of fellowship)
Is Christ the Son, ever going to come back and die all over again, or is it done by him once for us all? to choose to believe or not consciously?
Settle it within self to hear from God not others, not even me please, and be new in God's Love and mercy for you to get given to us all through Son's death as reconciled (2 Cor 5:17-20), which only forgives, does not give new life yet, just reconciled first in the willing death of Son for us all to believe or not believe. thank you (Hebrews 10:10-13)

How does 1 John 1:9, compare to God in Son that took away all sin at the cross of Son in his last time shedding of blood? that being the only verse misinterpreted against at least forty other scripture verses that claim are past tense forgiven, even before anyone here now that were not there then, it is finished it is done for us to be made new between God and you not me and you or any other religion either. It is a personal relationship between Daddy and you by Son for you that makes you as if you never sinned (Col 1:21-23)
There is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood, re-read the first old testament. Shed blood had to get done once a year as an atonement for sin.
Christ in his done work took away sin (John1:29) (John 19:30) , no more atonement. God fulfilled the law for us to be made righteous before Father as if we never sinned, amazing!
even though we all know we have, have we not? Anyone perfect out there reading this?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, y'all God loves you and continues to love you in God's mercy and truth of Son for you all too, that is done for you to get in you and see it, believe it, receive it and not sin anymore eventually, how??????????????????????/

By getting too, busy praising Father and Son as won for you personally too. And there will be many bad habits in you, that will eventually disappear if you do not give up on this truth God is telling you to see and choose to either believe it or not consciously. If you are getting pride in you over any thought you got it, then it is you trying to do it under Law and in pride making you a person better than others as revealed in (Luke 18:9-14)

As a person focuses, that person is, and one does as one thinks to do, and no other flesh but Son's flesh can please Father, which is done for us all to stand in belief to see eventually, once not giving up. You under Law to do to get or keep is a lie from evil to keep you in sin. Romans 7. Under Law, how you doing, are you winning. and stopping sin? a lot back and forth, doing it then not. Correct, neither could I, and see to not be under Law as in Romans 7:10 tells me about that. how it has crept in and kept me sinning again and again and again over and over, any of y'all too?
How about give that up under Law that keeps you sinning over and over again as we each know we have each done, never settling it within ourselves it is finished as Jesus said that in John 19:30
What is finished, have you ever asked Father in risen Son Jesus that?
The fulfillment of Law for you?
Romans 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Then one does new without anymore pride or guilt anymore, the done work of Son working through them over the self that religion teaches to do to get in or to stay in after belief to the risen Son for you

Believe, receive and see sin leave you, one sin at a time, not all at once. Now that might take awhile to happen, yet continue please to see this Col 1:21-23 please
Yet continued belief to God it is done for you to be new will happen in and through you too, if you will not let go of this trust to God it is done for you too.
Oh and I am not claiming me to be perfect ever. I claiming God is perfect for us to be new in love and mercy to all, so, busy with this truth, no time to sin again as have when was trying not to sin, I attest to this and give God all the credit your turn between God snd you too, thank you

No, I said that when Believers confess known sins, God also forgives the sins of which they are unaware.

It is also true that if an atheist repents and confesses Jesus as Messiah and Lord, God will forgive their sins by crediting them with the righteousness of Christ, so they are good to go until they commit their first post-conversion sin.

God knows whether a soul is a saved or unsaved sinner, but the NT provides parameters by which we may discern which is probably the case.

No one achieves moral perfection in this life, but no one who lacks divine love will reap eternal life with God (GL 6:7-8). Thus, a person who claims to be godly but who is behaving in an ungodly (unloving, untruthful) manner may be in one of the following categories:

a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (PHP 3:12-16),

b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1CR 3:1-3, EPH 4:11-15)

c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1CR 6:9-11, EPH 5:8-9), or

d. a pseudo-Christian (MT 7:21), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.

e. an apostate (1JN 2:19, HB 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith (1TM 1:19-20).

I think this jibes with what you posted, and yes, Hebrews stresses that Christ died once for all.

(HAND :^)

 

[Blade]

How much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him. So have you received the holy Spirit since you believed? And Peter answered them, Repent (change your views and purpose to accept the will of God in your inner selves instead of rejecting it) and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of and release from your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

But [like a boxer] I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached [the gospel] to others, I myself will not somehow be disqualified [as unfit for service].

Someone said very long time ago "I eat to live I don't live to eat." We have the flesh that we deal with day in day out yes and then the nature of GOD within us so we need do let that nature of God dominate us and crucify the flesh.

Its fellowship with Him.. its being always concourse of Him that sweet holy Spirit within us. Paul fully understood this and was full of the holy Spirit as Peter was John was James was.. well 120+ that was men and women. At some point we have to toss out what others believe and just read what He said and simply believe. You have not because you ask not or your asking wrong. So just face the fact you can't earn it you do not deserve it so just .. yes sir and receive it

 

[homwardbound]

No, I said that when Believers confess known sins, God also forgives the sins of which they are unaware.

It is also true that if an atheist repents and confesses Jesus as Messiah and Lord, God will forgive their sins by crediting them with the righteousness of Christ, so they are good to go until they commit their first post-conversion sin.

God knows whether a soul is a saved or unsaved sinner, but the NT provides parameters by which we may discern which is probably the case.

No one achieves moral perfection in this life, but no one who lacks divine love will reap eternal life with God (GL 6:7-8). Thus, a person who claims to be godly but who is behaving in an ungodly (unloving, untruthful) manner may be in one of the following categories:

a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (PHP 3:12-16),

b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1CR 3:1-3, EPH 4:11-15)

c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1CR 6:9-11, EPH 5:8-9), or

d. a pseudo-Christian (MT 7:21), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.

e. an apostate (1JN 2:19, HB 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith (1TM 1:19-20).

I think this jibes with what you posted, and yes, Hebrews stresses that Christ died once for all.

(HAND :^)

Okay, thank you
Now if I sin again, (Which I have) and all others have too, being in unredeemed flesh natures, per Romans 8
What might be better to do maybe? What is my, yours, and others confession for?
Is it to be forgiven all over again, when Father says it is done for you reconciled to you in the one time death shed blood done one time only for us all. Reconciled as forgiven (2 Cor 5:17-20) before being risen where new life is given, Death had to be first before any new life can get given, we had to be reconciled first as said in Acts 1 to the disciples. he had to go through death first willingly, before Father could ever live in us and work out our getting saved by Father though us, seeing us as if never sinned Col 1
Or does Jesus, (Yashua, Ha' Mashiach) have to do more for us, as if the death, burial and resurrection is not good enough? Either he took away sin 100% for us in Father's sight now to us or he didn't, which is it? Done or partially done? Does this depend on us the people, how one anyone reacts to this? By works to be, get or stay cleansed again? How can that be, when it is finished and we are cleansed by Father through Son for us all, done once for all? He told Peter in Acts, to not call anything God has cleansed unclean. God has cleansed all. The dream Peter had, before going to Cornelius's house, the Gentiles, Peter saw them get saved, without any rituals, just belief to God saved them, it is done or it is not done by God, (not anyone else)? for us to be saved by his love and mercy of Son for us all to be new in love also. This love overcame evil and remains that way to this day, to me anyways. I believe and by through belief to God alone with Son the two as Won (One) for us all, I see sin leaves as I learn to not try to not sin again.? Under Law, this brought out the curse of sin in flesh nature to be worse, as many see this has and might be happening to them too, I know the difference in me ever since accepting from God I am and remain forgiven by his love and mercy of Son. I then, in acceptance was and am able to learn new as I continue to go forth and put past behind me (Phil 3)
The shed blood of Jesus took away all sin, (John 1:29) but unbelief to this done work, done once for everyone to believe it or not consciously between God and them personally each. This done work was not Atonement, there is no more Atonement left to get anymore sins forgiven from Father to us anymore, this is done through Son, (John 19:30). The Atonement was set up in the first testament, and the people had to get more forgiveness each year, in that atonement each year sacrifice. Hebrews 10 explains this God not satisfied with that way of sacrifice, it never took away sin.
Behold here he came and went to that cross willingly and took all sin out of the way of Father for us all. to now have a relationship and tell truth about how we feel, what we think and God listens without bringing death on us as did in the first testament
Jesus the one and only that separated sin and Death for us in his Father's view
Wow, woe is me, thank you
Daddy, PaPa, Father, I am now willing to learn from you. Do you think once anyone willing fly chooses Father in risen Son, that Daddy needs another person to teach others?

So God did it for us to be born new in God's spirit and Truth, the Holy Spirit.
Either, it is taken away through the cross once and for all by Son for us all or it is not and we the people need more? Do we? Or is it doe as said by God to us to stand in this truth of it or not?

For me, I say to Father, Thank you that sin I just committed again, that you know I did not want to and yet did, Thank you from you I remain by you forgiven, reconciled thanks to Son for me.
Now, Father, I need to know, how to let go and not become prideful over stopping this that I now hate?
I need you to teach me, not me in my own thoughtful ways I have thought are good for me and I see they are not, they are excuses to me to take this given grace for advantage
1 John 2:27
But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, in your hearts, so that you don’t need anyone to teach you what is right. For he teaches you all things, and he is the Truth, and no liar; and so, just as he has said, you must live in Christ, never to depart from him.

Believe, receive and see, as long as no one gives up when ever troubles happen to therm too
Thank you as we each learn new from God over each other, I am nothing, God is everything in love to us all gave us all mercy over sacrifice
Hosea 6:6
“I don’t want your sacrifices—I want your love; I don’t want your offerings—I want you to know me.

Living Bible

Micah 6:7-8
7 For if you offered him thousands of rams and ten thousands of rivers of olive oil—would that please him? Would he be satisfied? If you sacrificed your oldest child, would that make him glad? Then would he forgive your sins? Of course not!
8 No, he has told you what he wants, and this is all it is: to be fair, just, merciful, and to walk humbly with your God.

 

[GWH]

Okay, thank you
Now if I sin again, (Which I have) and all others have too, being in unredeemed flesh natures, per Romans 8
What might be better to do maybe? What is my, yours, and others confession for?
Is it to be forgiven all over again, when Father says it is done for you reconciled to you in the one time death shed blood done one time only for us all. Reconciled as forgiven (2 Cor 5:17-20) before being risen where new life is given, Death had to be first before any new life can get given, we had to be reconciled first as said in Acts 1 to the disciples. he had to go through death first willingly, before Father could ever live in us and work out our getting saved by Father though us, seeing us as if never sinned Col 1
Or does Jesus, (Yashua, Ha' Mashiach) have to do more for us, as if the death, burial and resurrection is not good enough? Either he took away sin 100% for us in Father's sight now to us or he didn't, which is it? Done or partially done? Does this depend on us the people, how one anyone reacts to this? By works to be, get or stay cleansed again? How can that be, when it is finished and we are cleansed by Father through Son for us all, done once for all? He told Peter in Acts, to not call anything God has cleansed unclean. God has cleansed all. The dream Peter had, before going to Cornelius's house, the Gentiles, Peter saw them get saved, without any rituals, just belief to God saved them, it is done or it is not done by God, (not anyone else)? for us to be saved by his love and mercy of Son for us all to be new in love also. This love overcame evil and remains that way to this day, to me anyways. I believe and by through belief to God alone with Son the two as Won (One) for us all, I see sin leaves as I learn to not try to not sin again.? Under Law, this brought out the curse of sin in flesh nature to be worse, as many see this has and might be happening to them too, I know the difference in me ever since accepting from God I am and remain forgiven by his love and mercy of Son. I then, in acceptance was and am able to learn new as I continue to go forth and put past behind me (Phil 3)
The shed blood of Jesus took away all sin, (John 1:29) but unbelief to this done work, done once for everyone to believe it or not consciously between God and them personally each. This done work was not Atonement, there is no more Atonement left to get anymore sins forgiven from Father to us anymore, this is done through Son, (John 19:30). The Atonement was set up in the first testament, and the people had to get more forgiveness each year, in that atonement each year sacrifice. Hebrews 10 explains this God not satisfied with that way of sacrifice, it never took away sin.
Behold here he came and went to that cross willingly and took all sin out of the way of Father for us all. to now have a relationship and tell truth about how we feel, what we think and God listens without bringing death on us as did in the first testament
Jesus the one and only that separated sin and Death for us in his Father's view
Wow, woe is me, thank you
Daddy, PaPa, Father, I am now willing to learn from you. Do you think once anyone willing fly chooses Father in risen Son, that Daddy needs another person to teach others?

So God did it for us to be born new in God's spirit and Truth, the Holy Spirit.
Either, it is taken away through the cross once and for all by Son for us all or it is not and we the people need more? Do we? Or is it doe as said by God to us to stand in this truth of it or not?

For me, I say to Father, Thank you that sin I just committed again, that you know I did not want to and yet did, Thank you from you I remain by you forgiven, reconciled thanks to Son for me.
Now, Father, I need to know, how to let go and not become prideful over stopping this that I now hate?
I need you to teach me, not me in my own thoughtful ways I have thought are good for me and I see they are not, they are excuses to me to take this given grace for advantage
1 John 2:27
But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, in your hearts, so that you don’t need anyone to teach you what is right. For he teaches you all things, and he is the Truth, and no liar; and so, just as he has said, you must live in Christ, never to depart from him.

Believe, receive and see, as long as no one gives up when ever troubles happen to therm too
Thank you as we each learn new from God over each other, I am nothing, God is everything in love to us all gave us all mercy over sacrifice
Hosea 6:6
“I don’t want your sacrifices—I want your love; I don’t want your offerings—I want you to know me.

Living Bible

Micah 6:7-8
7 For if you offered him thousands of rams and ten thousands of rivers of olive oil—would that please him? Would he be satisfied? If you sacrificed your oldest child, would that make him glad? Then would he forgive your sins? Of course not!
8 No, he has told you what he wants, and this is all it is: to be fair, just, merciful, and to walk humbly with your God.

Re "What is my, yours, and others confession for? Is it to be forgiven all over again?":
No, it is to remain forgiven as we communicate honestly with God via prayer instead or repeating the sins of A&E and the Prodigal Son, which are only "mortal" if they indicate apostasy, which murder might (RM 1:28-2:11).

 

[homwardbound]

Thanks to remain forgiven is to say, I am not forgiven by God again and saying I need more from God to stop
How you or anyone else doing with that?
Still sinning, why, could be that view you out of fellowship because you sinned again?
God will not speak to you if you sinned again. How can you get anymore forgiveness without anymore shedding of Blood
Might be time to accept being reconciled by Son as Forgiven forever in Son, through Father
Or continue to have short accounts with God
The short accounts never worked for me, So I accepted god as my savior and I remain forgiven by his love and mercy give us all through Son for all
Love to you and all

 

[GWH]

Thanks to remain forgiven is to say, I am not forgiven by God again and saying I need more from God to stop
How you or anyone else doing with that?
Still sinning, why, could be that view you out of fellowship because you sinned again?
God will not speak to you if you sinned again. How can you get anymore forgiveness without anymore shedding of Blood
Might be time to accept being reconciled by Son as Forgiven forever in Son, through Father
Or continue to have short accounts with God
The short accounts never worked for me, So I accepted god as my savior and I remain forgiven by his love and mercy give us all through Son for all
Love to you and all

You remain forgiven because you continue to accept Jesus as Messiah and Lord, which correlates with the distinction between kerygma and didache.
The kerygma proclaims GRFS, which calls for repentance and acceptance of Jesus as Lord, which is an all or nothing decision that occurs at one moment in time.
The didache teaches God’s will regarding how saints or those who have been saved should live in order to be a good witness for Christ, which involves learning more of God’s Word throughout one’s lifetime.
A passage teaching this truth is Colossians 2:6-7: “Just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord [kerygma], continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught [didache].”

There is no qualitative difference between faith that accepts God’s saving grace at conversion and faith that accepts God’s working grace while walking/living (EPH 2:8-10, 2CR 5:7, RM 1:17), but only a quantitative difference as each additional moment passes–and of course faith remains non-meritorious during the saint’s entire lifetime.

 

[homwardbound]

There is no more sacrifices, it is done in. Son's shed blood on that cross once for us all to beleive, receive the risen Life and see miraculously by Father's gift too each child Father decides has no other ulterior motive of selfishness in them, thanks Born new by Daddy, through Son for us all, that is done the reconciliation once for us all. new life is a gift in the risen Son, that Daddy, PaPa, Father gives free, to relieve us from stress to rest
Hebrews 4:9-13, John 19:30, Hebrews 9:14-17
Ask God personally, between God and you what is meant by getting our conscious's purged from sin in Hebrews 10

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

Much is made of obedience and following God's commandments. The problem is not so much what to do as how. For example, there is conjecture as to what it means to obey the commandments. It seems to me that it is clear that there are many more commandments than the 10 given to Moses. Many of the Levitical commandments are impossible to obey, as there is no tabernacle, no priesthood or temple. And the Law was given to Israel anyway. Is this not a recipe for confusion?

For example, one commandment is for children to honour their father and mother. The NT add, parents do not provoke your children to anger (Ephesians 6:4). You could be following the 10 commandments to the letter and still be disobeying God.

We are commanded to "walk in the Spirit". If we are doing this, we will bear fruit that is acceptable to God. Note the word "bear". Paul contrasts this with "works" of the flesh. It is possible to be working with all our strength, only to be piling up dead works.

Fruit trees do not work. They cannot. The farmer has to prune and fertilise the tree to get the best from it. Jesus described Himself as the Vine ad we who believe the branches. All we need to do is to live in the vine, to stay attached, so to speak. When we are in this state, the life that is in the "Vine" flows through us and fruit is the result. God takes care of the branches. The same life that is in Christ is therefore in us as long as we stay connected.

Legalism separates us from Christ (Galatians 5:4)

"You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

So for those who are attempting to be justified by following the Law, all they have is dead works. God is not pleased. Only what is of His Son is pleasing to God.

So how do we walk in the Spirit? It is by the exercise of our will. If we do not choose to walk in the Spirit, we are choosing the works of the flesh. No matter how good our intentions, we will surely fail.

We need to see that we are sanctified, which means to be set apart for a holy purpose. God already set us apart. He calls us now to live in the truth. If we will accept the Lordship of Christ and follow His leading, like the Vine dresser prunes the vine, so God will cleanse and purge us so that we bear fruit. Start each day by committing your ways to Christ and inviting Him to take complete control. Then live secure in the knowledge that you are safe and secure in Christ, trusting Him to keep you in His keeping power.

This is a very good post. Thank you for bringing up the subject. It is near and dear to my heart.

You asked, "So how do we walk in the Spirit?" You are right that it is by the excercise of our will to follow Christ wherever He leads. The first indication of this in Galatians is here...

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. (Ga 5:16–17)​

This tells us that the desires/lusts of our flesh flesh are in adversarial opposition ("ἀντίκειμαι") to those of the Spirit of God. It also tells us that the only way to avoid the things that fulfilling the lusts of the flesh produces is to conduct our lives ("περιπατέω") in accordance with the desires of the Spirit of God. This, of course, presumes that we can perceive both the desires or the Spirit and the desires of the flesh and that we have a choice as to which to pursue.

The second indication is similar, but it has a different focus...

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit (Ga 5:25)​

This verse asks us to first consider that we are new creatures in Christ, we are alive from the dead, and our lives are now hidden with Christ in God (i.e., we live ("ζάω") in the Spirit). Since we live in the Spirit, we also should walk in lock step ("στοιχέω") with the Spirit. This focuses our attention on being followers of the Spirit of God as He leads, guides, directs, teaches, corrects, and comforts us from the intimacy of our own hearts. This again presumes that we can perceive both the desires or the Spirit and the desires of the flesh and that we have a choice as to which to follow.

 

[GWH]

There is no more sacrifices, it is done in. Son's shed blood on that cross once for us all to beleive, receive the risen Life and see miraculously by Father's gift too each child Father decides has no other ulterior motive of selfishness in them, thanks Born new by Daddy, through Son for us all, that is done the reconciliation once for us all. new life is a gift in the risen Son, that Daddy, PaPa, Father gives free, to relieve us from stress to rest
Hebrews 4:9-13, John 19:30, Hebrews 9:14-17
Ask God personally, between God and you what is meant by getting our conscious's purged from sin in Hebrews 10

Yes, birth is the beginning, life is the continuation and death is the graduation Day. (2TM 3:6-8)

 

[homwardbound]

You remain forgiven because you continue to accept Jesus as Messiah and Lord, which correlates with the distinction between kerygma and didache.
The kerygma proclaims GRFS, which calls for repentance and acceptance of Jesus as Lord, which is an all or nothing decision that occurs at one moment in time.
The didache teaches God’s will regarding how saints or those who have been saved should live in order to be a good witness for Christ, which involves learning more of God’s Word throughout one’s lifetime.
A passage teaching this truth is Colossians 2:6-7: “Just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord [kerygma], continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught [didache].”

There is no qualitative difference between faith that accepts God’s saving grace at conversion and faith that accepts God’s working grace while walking/living (EPH 2:8-10, 2CR 5:7, RM 1:17), but only a quantitative difference as each additional moment passes–and of course faith remains non-meritorious during the saint’s entire lifetime.

This be why, I see from Daddy, to not worry over who is truly saved or acting as if are saved. why?

Living Bible

Romans 8:15-16

15 And what a difference between man’s sin and God’s forgiveness!
For this one man, Adam, brought death to many through his sin. But this one man, Jesus Christ, brought forgiveness to many through God’s mercy. 16 Adam’s one sin brought the penalty of death to many, while Christ freely takes away many sins and gives glorious life instead.


Authorized (King James) Version

Romans 8:15-16
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.


New International Version

Romans 8:15-16

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man,(A) how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ,(B) overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

 

[GWH]

This be why, I see from Daddy, to not worry over who is truly saved or acting as if are saved. why?

Living Bible

Romans 8:15-16

15 And what a difference between man’s sin and God’s forgiveness!
For this one man, Adam, brought death to many through his sin. But this one man, Jesus Christ, brought forgiveness to many through God’s mercy. 16 Adam’s one sin brought the penalty of death to many, while Christ freely takes away many sins and gives glorious life instead.


Authorized (King James) Version

Romans 8:15-16
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.


New International Version

Romans 8:15-16

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man,(A) how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ,(B) overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.

Yes, we should not worry, but my LGW such as GL 5:19-21 we can discern that people who practice evil are not saved.

 

[Soyeong]

Much is made of obedience and following God's commandments. The problem is not so much what to do as how. For example, there is conjecture as to what it means to obey the commandments. It seems to me that it is clear that there are many more commandments than the 10 given to Moses. Many of the Levitical commandments are impossible to obey, as there is no tabernacle, no priesthood or temple. And the Law was given to Israel anyway. Is this not a recipe for confusion?

Many of God's laws have conditions under which they should be followed and there is nothing wrong with not following them when their conditions are not met. For example, the Israelites were given a numbers of laws that had the condition "when you enter the land..." while they were still wandering the wilderness for 40 years, so during that time they could only anticipate getting to follow them. Likewise, laws in regard to temple practice can only be followed when there is a temple in which to practice them.

For example, one commandment is for children to honour their father and mother. The NT add, parents do not provoke your children to anger (Ephesians 6:4). You could be following the 10 commandments to the letter and still be disobeying God.

We are commanded to "walk in the Spirit". If we are doing this, we will bear fruit that is acceptable to God. Note the word "bear". Paul contrasts this with "works" of the flesh. It is possible to be working with all our strength, only to be piling up dead works.

Fruit trees do not work. They cannot. The farmer has to prune and fertilise the tree to get the best from it. Jesus described Himself as the Vine ad we who believe the branches. All we need to do is to live in the vine, to stay attached, so to speak. When we are in this state, the life that is in the "Vine" flows through us and fruit is the result. God takes care of the branches. The same life that is in Christ is therefore in us as long as we stay connected.

Legalism separates us from Christ (Galatians 5:4)

"You who are trying to be justified by the law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."

So for those who are attempting to be justified by following the Law, all they have is dead works. God is not pleased. Only what is of His Son is pleasing to God.

So how do we walk in the Spirit? It is by the exercise of our will. If we do not choose to walk in the Spirit, we are choosing the works of the flesh. No matter how good our intentions, we will surely fail.

We need to see that we are sanctified, which means to be set apart for a holy purpose. God already set us apart. He calls us now to live in the truth. If we will accept the Lordship of Christ and follow His leading, like the Vine dresser prunes the vine, so God will cleanse and purge us so that we bear fruit. Start each day by committing your ways to Christ and inviting Him to take complete control. Then live secure in the knowledge that you are safe and secure in Christ, trusting Him to keep you in His keeping power.

Everything that God has commanded is in accordance with His Spirit and leads to life, so He is not a commander of dead works, but rather dead works are those that lead to death in disobedience to God. The character traits of God are the fruits of the Spirit and it would be overwhelming to exhaustively teach how to be a doer of in every possibles situation, so the point is to teach those traits by giving a limited set of laws that all have them in common, which is why the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey God's law (Ezekiel 36:26-27). In Romans 8:4-7, Paul contrasted those who walk in the Spirit with those who have minds set on the flesh who are enemies of God who refuse to submit to God's law. In Galatians 5:16-23, Paul contrasted the desires of the flesh with the desires of the Spirit and everything that he listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's law while all of the fruits of the Spirit as aspects of God's character that God's law was given to teach us how to express.

God's law is His instructions for how to bear fruit of Him and John 15:1-11 connects bearing fruit with obeying Christ's commandments. Christ set expressed fruits of the Spirit through His works by setting a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law, and in 1 John 2:6, those who are in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked.

God's law was never given as a way of earning our justification, so that has always been a fundamental misunderstanding of why we should obey it, and Galatians 5:4 isn't even speaking about God's law. It is not as though God is pleased by rebellion against His law. It is contradictory to want to be holy set apart for a holy purpose while not wanting to follow God's laws for how to do that. In Psalms 119:142, God's law is truth, so it is contradictory to want to live in the truth instead of living in obedience to God's law. It is contradictory to want to accept the Lordship of God's word made flesh while not wanting to obey God's word. It is contradictory to commit our ways to Christ while not wanting to walk in God's way. It is contradictory to trust in God, but not in what He has instructed.

 

[homwardbound]

This is a very good post. Thank you for bringing up the subject. It is near and dear to my heart.

You asked, "So how do we walk in the Spirit?" You are right that it is by the excercise of our will to follow Christ wherever He leads. The first indication of this in Galatians is here...

16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. (Ga 5:16–17)​

This tells us that the desires/lusts of our flesh flesh are in adversarial opposition ("ἀντίκειμαι") to those of the Spirit of God. It also tells us that the only way to avoid the things that fulfilling the lusts of the flesh produces is to conduct our lives ("περιπατέω") in accordance with the desires of the Spirit of God. This, of course, presumes that we can perceive both the desires or the Spirit and the desires of the flesh and that we have a choice as to which to pursue.

The second indication is similar, but it has a different focus...

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit (Ga 5:25)​

This verse asks us to first consider that we are new creatures in Christ, we are alive from the dead, and our lives are now hidden with Christ in God (i.e., we live ("ζάω") in the Spirit). Since we live in the Spirit, we also should walk in lock step ("στοιχέω") with the Spirit. This focuses our attention on being followers of the Spirit of God as He leads, guides, directs, teaches, corrects, and comforts us from the intimacy of our own hearts. This again presumes that we can perceive both the desires or the Spirit and the desires of the flesh and that we have a choice as to which to follow.

thanks, read that, and if I suppose to have free choice, then do I? Do you does everyone?
According to God in Genesis, it began at free choice fro Adam to choose. Adam the first chose, so did Cane, who was warned he could try allover again (Learn from) Yet he chose what God told him, sin was crouching at his doorstep. And he gave into it and murdered his brother Abel
First murder according to the Bible, Fast forwarding I read all have chose to sin over thoughts each have gotten and tragedies happening to them
I see a few that chose right, like Joseph chose what is right over what is not right and stopped that person that had an unbalanced scale. Noting this: There was no Law in place then, not from God
Therefore the choice is there for us all within in all, and we all can choose freely to do wha tis right over what was wrong. And not necessarily go along with the crowd, you think?
This is deep, thank you, causes me to hear and write

 

[homwardbound]

Yes, birth is the beginning, life is the continuation and death is the graduation Day. (2TM 3:6-8)

thanks. yes we all each go through things here first to learn and not learn to be and not be, with or without God as our lead
Then when the day comes for each person to leave, then they leave and go wherever is righteous for them to go by God's decision over our choice(s) and Father warns us all, as he did Cane, warned him about his anger and what that does, thanks.
I see to go ahead and be angry, yet do not sin. yet I do sin whenever, I get angry, anyone else?
This love of God in mercy and truth floors me. No matter what, I deserve to die and stay dead
I see this and see thanksgiving and praise to God in this mercy given us all by Son for us all, going to that cross willingly for us all to choose to believe God in this or not and be given the gift of new life to stand in, thanks