Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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We have several paces in the old testament that it is an angel that explains a prophecy or a vision to a prophet. Gabriel himself explained one to Daniel and it was also Gabriel that came with the message of Christ to Mary. So I would say that angels are very much involved in prophecy. According to God being involved makes a person one with that action or evolution and it is shared. Such as Paul when he breaks down one may sow and another water.
Yeah I know and foreknew that would probably be said 
, but they have never been called prophets. Prophets have been called angels, but not vice versa
, but they have never been called prophets. Prophets have been called angels, but not vice versa
Is not prophecy the testimony of Christ is not prophecy about Christ himself. The claim is that kinship of ministry. Does not Hebrews 1 say the same thing about them having a ministry.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
The word ministering in the Greek is: leitourgikos and means given to serving (ministration), ministering.
Usage: The term "leitourgikos" is used to describe something related to service or ministry, particularly in a religious or sacred context. It conveys the idea of performing duties or functions that are dedicated to God and the community of believers. This term emphasizes the role of serving others as an act of worship and devotion to God.
https://biblehub.com/greek/3010.htm
The word minister in the Greek is diakonia and means Service, ministry, office, relief, support.
Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: While there is no direct Hebrew equivalent to "diakonia," the concept of service is present in terms like עֲבוֹדָה (avodah, H5656), meaning "work" or "service," often used in the context of worship and temple duties.
Usage: The term "diakonia" primarily refers to the act of service or ministry. It encompasses a broad range of activities, from practical service to spiritual ministry. In the New Testament, "diakonia" is often used to describe the work of serving others, whether through providing for physical needs or through spiritual leadership and teaching. It emphasizes the role of serving within the Christian community, highlighting the importance of humility and dedication in fulfilling God's work.
https://biblehub.com/greek/1248.htm
So is this not what God has used angels to do bear testimony and to even teach.
I find this is the emphasis and denotes kinship and the shared work of God. Something like you would see sons do together in their Fathers kingdom or even the shared work of the Father's family business.
I'm starting to lean that way. This is from another translation in which the angel seems to be saying that he is the servant of both John and his brothers. In other words, "I am your servant and your brothers' and of the ones keeping the prophecy"
And he says to me, See that you do not! I am your fellow-servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of the ones giving heed to the words of this scroll; to God do obeisance! Revelation 22:9
I have more or less used all I have to explain my position of how I see that they are sons of God as well and share in that kinship. Just wanted to present a honest case to how I came to that conclusion in explanation throughout this thread. So the floor is all yours to critique my analysis and conclusion. So my heart is always open to the Spirit who does lead into all truth and trust he will do so if I have it messed up. So thanks for your time and hearing me out much appreciated.
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Refute post 309 if you are able
https://christianchat.com/threads/are-giants-the-offspring-of-angels-and-humans.217732/post-5438251
https://christianchat.com/threads/are-giants-the-offspring-of-angels-and-humans.217732/post-5438251
Considered married by men. Were they one flesh? No. Therefore Joseph could have justly divorced her. Marriage in God's eyes is becoming one flesh with another, which only happens with sex, therefore it is unjust to divorce unless a partner becomes one flesh with someone else, ie adultery. I don't understand how this is even a topic for discussion.
Joseph could have justly divorced her had Mary been unfaithful, in fact she could have been stoned to death because they
were considered married, and her having relations with another man would have been adultery punishable by death.
We are having this discussion because you are adding to what Scripture says and also subtracting from it.
But it is late and I work tomorrow (or later today) so, good night...
were considered married, and her having relations with another man would have been adultery punishable by death.
We are having this discussion because you are adding to what Scripture says and also subtracting from it.
But it is late and I work tomorrow (or later today) so, good night...
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