Understanding God’s election
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John 6:44
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
1 Corinthians 2:
11 For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.[d]
14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 8
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
John 10
But you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
John 3:36
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
1 Corinthians 2:
11 For who knows a person's thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.[d]
14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 8
For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
John 10
But you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
John 3:36
No it doesn't. Something can be given and received without the receiver doing anything. For example, let's say I give you a gift of $100. But instead of putting it in your hand, I place it in your bank account. The gift is given and received without you doing anything. This is what happens when salvation is by the will of God.
On the other hand, if it was according to the will of man, it would be up to man to accept or reject it.
On the other hand, if it was according to the will of man, it would be up to man to accept or reject it.
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I remember fairly well when I went to a church around Passover in 1988 to watch a movie on the life
of Christ based on the gospel of Luke. At some point I experienced a full-body head-to-toe in-filling
of the light of God's unconditional love and forgiveness. I did nothing to receive it... unless you can
call going to movie doing something. I was seeking. I cannot say there would have been anything
I could have done to have stopped it. Why would I want to??? Knowing God loved me and forgave
me was a precious experience I treasured in my heart long before I ever came to believe more fully
in the God of the Bible Who had GIVEN me that experience which I did nothing to receive.
I was the recipient of His gracious grace. Thank you God!
Praise the Lord
of Christ based on the gospel of Luke. At some point I experienced a full-body head-to-toe in-filling
of the light of God's unconditional love and forgiveness. I did nothing to receive it... unless you can
call going to movie doing something. I was seeking. I cannot say there would have been anything
I could have done to have stopped it. Why would I want to??? Knowing God loved me and forgave
me was a precious experience I treasured in my heart long before I ever came to believe more fully
in the God of the Bible Who had GIVEN me that experience which I did nothing to receive.
I was the recipient of His gracious grace. Thank you God!
Praise the Lord
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Matthew 7:13 plus Romans 8:13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live
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I can help you out with this one brother. Pray this helps you. You helped me, been a while since I have gone over this!
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
We ACTIVELY( Our will)receive.
elabon elabon G2983 vi 2Aor Act 3 Pl GOT obtained
We ACTIVELY(our will) believe.
pisteuousin pisteuousin G4100 vp Pres Act Dat Pl m ones-BELIEVING ones-believing
Notice the colon at the end of the verse :~~~~Watch for what's coming next!
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The act of being born has nothing to do with man.........Christ does ALL the work.
What they confuse their victims with is trying to make Believing a work. Or to put merit in believing. ALL of the merit is in the object(The Lord Jesus Christ) of faith.
And our faith derives from the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Who convicts the WORLD (ALL MANKIND) concerning sin/UNBELIEF.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
We ACTIVELY( Our will)receive.
elabon elabon G2983 vi 2Aor Act 3 Pl GOT obtained
We ACTIVELY(our will) believe.
pisteuousin pisteuousin G4100 vp Pres Act Dat Pl m ones-BELIEVING ones-believing
Notice the colon at the end of the verse :~~~~Watch for what's coming next!
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The act of being born has nothing to do with man.........Christ does ALL the work.
What they confuse their victims with is trying to make Believing a work. Or to put merit in believing. ALL of the merit is in the object(The Lord Jesus Christ) of faith.
And our faith derives from the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Who convicts the WORLD (ALL MANKIND) concerning sin/UNBELIEF.
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