Don't bother responding to insults my friend if they think your doctrine is poor let them think that it isn't worth the timeHey! You forgot to flush!!!!
Understanding God’s election
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If God predestined the entire show why act out some part of the show, as if you have something to do with it?
You cannot alter God's sovereign will!
The outcome is exactly the same whether you lift a finger or not.
regardless how they think we still should show patience and love those are the fruits of the spirit
But were we not commanded to work and to bring the lost to Christ? are you saying it is useless to try to reach the lost?
The Calvinite walls need little more than a whisper. Maybe a nudge.
And down they come.
[Jos 6:20 KJV]
So the people shouted when [the priests] blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
Adam never chose anything it was all the will of God.
Either God is sovereign or God is not sovereign?
Maybe Trelane from star trek? How about Q?
Both were nasty and selfish. Both did not give a hoot about anybody.
Both were cruel and manipulative.
How can you attempt to save anyone?
God has already predestined all things in the universe.
You cannot exercise freedom of will under God's Sovereignty.
It's not what you choose, or desire, or strive for, God's decision was made in eternity past.
it isn't about me choosing or my will it is about doing the work he gave us to do which is to use the gifts he gave us to reach the lost or did you forget that he commanded us to go and make disviples I mean what do you use your talents for?
It boils down to whether you believe God has predestined salvation or not.
He does not need Blains input as the the result of the game is written already.
It's called self-deception. These professing Christians of which you speak have conned themselves into believing they are the superheroes of the Christian Faith whom God has called to defend the faith. So...any tactic or strategy or plan they employ to "fulfill their calling" is fair game, since all is fair in love and war.
I see so you are not a worker for Christ, well I leave that between you and Christ then I am not responcible for what he ahs to say to you one day......
Including the means to save souls.
I joyfully and soberly at the same time consider it a great privilege to be a co-worker with Christ in evangelism. It's not my place to know who is and who isn't among God's elect. But it is my place to obey God.
The Calvinites are CHOOSING alright. Whether they know it or not. Whether they like it or not. And whether they believe it or not.
[Mat 11:20 KJV]
Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
[Mat 21:32 KJV]
For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen [it], repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
[Luk 11:32 NLT]
The people of Nineveh will also stand up against this generation on judgment day and condemn it, for they repented of their sins at the preaching of Jonah. Now someone greater than Jonah is here--but you refuse to repent.
[Rev 2:21 KJV]
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
And we're choosing like never before in our life. After all, the Truth has set us free and Jesus has as well. Once we were free FROM righteousness; now we're free FROM the control of sin which makes us free TO choose what is RIGHT! Look at this NC age as a big dress rehearsal for the eternal, visible Kingdom in which all the saints will only be able to choose what is good, righteous and holy, since in that age all God's saints will be perfectly, completely and eternally conformed to the image of Christ.
I don't think you will enjoy the Age to come, since in your world, true freedom is being able to make choices contrary to our nature. But....all that is contrary to good, righteousness and holiness won't even enter a saint's mind; for the saints will be so overwhelmed by the majesty, glory, power and love of God that all we will want to do is worship him, praise him, thank him and serve him forever and ever. But you free willers will certainly feel like fish out of water in that age!
Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies,
Believes and THEN you shall live.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved....
Believes and THEN shall be saved.
Commit Things worthy of stripes and you shall be beaten......
Commit things worthy of a beating and THEN you shall be beaten.
Can you beat a man before he commits things worthy of a beating? No worries about answering. Just an example of reformed folly.
@Kroogz do you agree with the order of events as presented in this Scripture?
Also Ezekiel 36:26-27; Romans 2:29; Jeremiah 32:39-40; Colossians 2:11 Philippians 3:3...
More stuff attributed to me I didn't say. Obviously not all of Israel was redeemed; neither were the 3 mentioned the only ones. Anyone reading Hebrews 11 would know this.
I didn't say whether Ismail was saved or not. I said he was rejected by God. Another shark jumped.
The juxtaposition of the rescue of the Israelites and the destruction of the Egyptians is clearly a picture of salvation and damnation. God brought life to one group and death to the other. Couldn't be any more clear.
But if you did read post#4065, you missed the point altogether.