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I wouldn't consider it symbolic when Ezekiel 37 tells us that Israel is going to be resurrected and God and Magog are going to fight a battle against them in the latter day, when the two kingdoms become one again. Read Ezekiel 37, 38, and 39.
Do we have to make everything symbolic when it doesn't fit our predisposed teachings?
Isa 49:17-23 Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee. Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth. For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away. The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell. Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been? Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders. And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
Do we have to make everything symbolic when it doesn't fit our predisposed teachings?
Isa 49:17-23 Thy children shall make haste; thy destroyers and they that made thee waste shall go forth of thee. Lift up thine eyes round about, and behold: all these gather themselves together, and come to thee. As I live, saith the LORD, thou shalt surely clothe thee with them all, as with an ornament, and bind them on thee, as a bride doeth. For thy waste and thy desolate places, and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants, and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away. The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell. Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been? Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders. And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.
The entire OT is about Christ. Nothing in it doesn't have some reference to Him. The book Revelation finds its corollary in the book of Deuteronomy. In Deuteronomy, God makes a covenant with Israel. He establishes the terms of the covenant and lays out the sanctions for not upholding the covenant. When Israel kills God's Son, God deems this as the final bit of rebellion for Israel and makes ready to bring upon Israel the sanctions specified in the old covenant. The book of Revelation is largely God's explanation of what is shortly to come to pass. It is written to the first century church to provide comfort and to give a heads up.
We agree that the entire Bible is about Jesus Christ.
In Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews 8:8 We see a new covenant with Israel that has not yet taken place. We know that it hasn't taken place because their eyes have not been opened, and because the time of the goys has not been completed.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Has the fulness of the Gentiles been completed?
In Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews 8:8 We see a new covenant with Israel that has not yet taken place. We know that it hasn't taken place because their eyes have not been opened, and because the time of the goys has not been completed.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Has the fulness of the Gentiles been completed?
David means beloved, There are are two different people mentioned. David, the servant of Yahweh and son of Jesse, God's beloved servant ( Ez. 34:24) And a beloved one (david/daviyd), who is Jesus the Son of Yahweh and Son of Mary, God's "beloved Son" ( Jer. 30:9; Hos. 3:5; Ez. 34:23; Ez. 37:22, 24).
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David ( DaViD) their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David (DaViYD); he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David (DaViD) a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Eze 37:24 And David (DaViD) my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
It's interesting that Ezekiel uses two different forms of "beloved" in 34:23 and 24, and they seem to refer to different people.
Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David ( DaViD) their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David (DaViYD); he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David (DaViD) a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.
Eze 37:24 And David (DaViD) my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
It's interesting that Ezekiel uses two different forms of "beloved" in 34:23 and 24, and they seem to refer to different people.
No. But Paul's meaning is ambiguous. He could be saying that the fullness of the Jews will be come in at the same time as the fulness of the Gentiles are come in. Or he could be saying that the fullness of the Jews will not be come in until after the fulness of the Gentiles are come in. I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until (achri: a terminus) the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until (achri: a terminus) the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
The only place the new covenant is mentioned is in Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 & 9.
Heb 8:8-11 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
They will not need a teacher any longer as in Matthew 28:19. Their eyes will be open. They will no longer be blinded as stated by Paul in Romans 11. In Paul's day they were still blinded. It will be a new age.
Heb 8:8-11 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
They will not need a teacher any longer as in Matthew 28:19. Their eyes will be open. They will no longer be blinded as stated by Paul in Romans 11. In Paul's day they were still blinded. It will be a new age.
Once the fullness of the gentiles enters into Christ's body, the mystery of God will be complete and the 7th trumpet will blow signaling the resurrection and return of Christ, and the day of God's wrath upon the wicked.
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Revelation 10:7
Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ. Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: Ephesians 3:4-6
The age of the Law is over. It was completed with the rejection of the Messiah. There is no physical Temple, there is no King, there is no sacrifice, there is no priest. We are now in the age of the Gentile, where there is no Jew or Gentile. When the age of the Gentile is over, there will be the age where the Jew's eyes will be open, and they will have no need of a teacher. The two kingdoms will become one.
Our definition of New Covenant is not the same. I take mine from Jeremiah 31:31 and Hebrews, where it actually says and describes the new covenant.
Only with the understanding that this is a Jewish book written to the Jews, with the exception of some of the writings of Paul, can you begin to make sense of it.
Only with the understanding that this is a Jewish book written to the Jews, with the exception of some of the writings of Paul, can you begin to make sense of it.