Timeline for following verses

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Jer 30:9 But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.

Hos 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Eze 34:23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.

Eze 34:24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it.

Eze 37:24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
 
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Are you asking when these verses will be fulfilled?

If so, then does your question have anything to do with why David is being mentioned?
 
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Those verses can't be referring to David himself because they say there will be one king and one shepherd, which can only be Christ. So they are referring to the house/throne of David, of which Christ is the head.

And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David. 2 Samuel 7:16-17​

Also one verse says God will raise up David to them, which again refers to Christ.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​
 
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keepingthingsreal said:
Are you asking when these verses will be fulfilled?

If so, then does your question have anything to do with why David is being mentioned?
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Yes, I am asking a timeline for the fulfillment of these verses. No, David's name is presented only as a reference to a time.
 
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Those verses were fulfilled at Pentecost when Judah and Israel were re-united in Christ.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Those verses can't be referring to David himself because they say there will be one king and one shepherd, which can only be Christ. So they are referring to the house/throne of David, of which Christ is the head.

And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David. 2 Samuel 7:16-17​

Also one verse says God will raise up David to them, which again refers to Christ.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​
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Are you suggesting that the scripture does not mean what it says because it does not meet your understanding of eschatology? It does not refer to the seed of David. It refers to David himself.
 
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ChristRoseFromTheDead said:
Those verses can't be referring to David himself because they say there will be one king and one shepherd, which can only be Christ. So they are referring to the house/throne of David, of which Christ is the head.

And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David. 2 Samuel 7:16-17​

Also one verse says God will raise up David to them, which again refers to Christ.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19​
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I want to apologize for my harshness in replying about eschatology. I am sorry I said that.
 
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tttallison said:
Are you suggesting that the scripture does not mean what it says because it does not meet your understanding of eschatology? It does not refer to the seed of David. It refers to David himself.
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No, I'm suggesting that your carnal interpretation is wrong. You will be endlessly lost in confusion if you insist on reading everything in the bible that way
 
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tttallison said:
Yes, I am asking a timeline for the fulfillment of these verses. No, David's name is presented only as a reference to a time.
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I will address your second comment first.

You quoted future prophecies from Jeremiah, Hosea, and Ezekiel, and they all wrote after David was dead, so these prophecies cannot possibly literally pertain to David. One of your quotes was from Jeremiah 30:9. Earlier, Jeremiah had prophesied the following:

Jer 23:5
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

When the LORD said that he would raise unto David a righteous Branch, he was referring to Jesus who came from the lineage of David in his humanity or who is the son or seed of David. Jesus is THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. With this in mind, when Jeremiah spoke of "David their king," he was not referring literally to David who was already dead. Instead, he was referring to the righteous Branch who sprung forth from David or to Jesus Christ who is the son or seed of David.

We also need to consider that David's name means "beloved." Of course, Jesus is God's beloved Son in whom he is well pleased, and we, as Christians, are accepted in the beloved or accepted in Christ.

In answer to your first comment, if we look at all the verses you quoted collectively, then they are referring to the time of Christ's Millennial Reign or to the time when Christ will return to sit upon the throne of his glory as the prophesied son of David.
 
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keepingthingsreal said:
I will address your second comment first.

You quoted future prophecies from Jeremiah, Hosea, and Ezekiel, and they all wrote after David was dead, so these prophecies cannot possibly literally pertain to David. One of your quotes was from Jeremiah 30:9. Earlier, Jeremiah had prophesied the following:

Jer 23:5
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6
In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

When the LORD said that he would raise unto David a righteous Branch, he was referring to Jesus who came from the lineage of David in his humanity or who is the son or seed of David. Jesus is THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. With this in mind, when Jeremiah spoke of "David their king," he was not referring literally to David who was already dead. Instead, he was referring to the righteous Branch who sprung forth from David or to Jesus Christ who is the son or seed of David.

We also need to consider that David's name means "beloved." Of course, Jesus is God's beloved Son in whom he is well pleased, and we, as Christians, are accepted in the beloved or accepted in Christ.

In answer to your first comment, if we look at all the verses you quoted collectively, then they are referring to the time of Christ's Millennial Reign or to the time when Christ will return to sit upon the throne of his glory as the prophesied son of David.
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I would agree with you that David is dead in this age, but what about the age to come?
 
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tttallison said:
I would agree with you that David is dead in this age, but what about the age to come?
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David typifies Christ in the eternal kingdom. See what happens in David's time as king and understand the spiritual realities that are prefigured in Christ's eternal kingdom.
 
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Cameron143 said:
David typifies Christ in the eternal kingdom. See what happens in David's time as king and understand the spiritual realities that are prefigured in Christ's eternal kingdom.
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What about the age to come that is not eternal for all.
 
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