the Sabbath

[SaysWhat]

Here's more context Jesus was condemning those who keep their own rules over obeying the commandments of God quoting directly from the Ten Commandments

Mat 15: 3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the [b]commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people [c]draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

Which goes with

And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Good example of how they transgressed scripture especially verse 4, where they were instructed to kill the person. Yet they took profits instead making it have no effect.

Yeah in the OT, it was a serious offense and death was to be carried out. They practiced lawlessness by not killing, the old testament didn't play around.

Matt 15:4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’

 

[Magenta]

Jesus is my Sabbath rest.

 

[Cameron143]

You said those who don't keep Christ's commandments aren't saved, and no one is saved keeping Moses' commandments . So Christ's commandments can't be Moses' commandments because keeping Christ's commandments saves, but keeping Moses' commandments doesn't.

Keeping Christ's commandments don't save. Otherwise, salvation would not be by grace. Keeping commandments may be evidence of salvation, however. But the best evidence of salvation is fruit.
Ultimately, we cannot know if someone is saved because we do not have access to hearts. But those who exhibit fruit are likely saved because fruit, unlike outward obedience, is not a matter of the will of man but produced by the Spirit Himself.

 

[Magenta]

Keeping Christ's commandments don't save. Otherwise, salvation would not be by grace. Keeping commandments may be evidence of salvation, however. But the best evidence of salvation is fruit.
Ultimately, we cannot know if someone is saved because we do not have access to hearts. But those who exhibit fruit are likely saved because fruit, unlike outward obedience, is not a matter of the will of man but produced by the Spirit Himself.

1 Samuel 16:7b - God looks at the heart

 

[SabbathBlessing]

Not keeping commandments is evidence that someone isn't saved, not that they are. But no one ever has been saved by keeping the law.

I don't know, it seems to me Jesus was pretty clear.

First Jesus defined the commandments of God as being from the Ten Commandments, which came in a unit of Ten designed personally by God Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28. It's always surprising to me this is even an argument because Jesus who is God and wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger claimed them as "My commandments" which includes the Sabbath commandment. So people try to make silly arguments that the Sabbath is no longer one of God's commandments and was not part of "God's law" He wrote in our hearts, which is really a terrible argument not with me, but with God who wrote and clearly identified His law.

Jesus in His own Words said those who keep their own rules in lieu of obeying God and keeping His commandments said the following which you can find in Mat 15:3-14

1. Their heart is far from Him - where did God place His law- in our hearts Heb 8:10 rebelling against God's commandments which Jesus said was from the Ten Commandments makes our heart far from Him
2. He said when we do this one worships in vain
3. If you keep reading you will Jesus said that path leads to a ditch

Do you think we are in a saved state by having our hearts from Him i.e. I don't know you, worshipping Him in vain and ending up in a ditch is the path that leads us back to Christ?

We are told what a saved person does- not to be saved but because one is saved and a follower of Christ.

Rev 22:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Scripture tells us whoever we obey, is who we serve. Rom 6:16

We are told we must worship God in Truth and spirit John 4:24 all of God's commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 and when we keep our rules over obeying God's commandments Jesus said in His own Words one worships Him in vain.

We are living in the last days, we need to come out of our false teachings and obey God the way He said, before its too late.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.