Question about women in the church.
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Derobo
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As regarding to Gods view on us , NO.
that means God does not view one better than the other.
you mean this?
As regarding to Gods view on us, no we are all humans and his creation?
i should have phrased it like this maybe.
As regarding to Gods view on us, no we are not different, we are all humans and his creation,
If you tell people here that IN FACT there exists ranks, orders and a hierarchy of angelic beings......I think that they would have a nervous breakdown.
Truth is that God's patterns of His creation are consistent. Including the earthly.
Not by the will of Christian men, they aren’t.
"cursed is the ground for thy sake"
A fact that you did not, nor cannot explain or understand.
But I do understand perfectly well what God is saying......and why.
I also understand perfectly well why this mandate is still in force today.
Yet again you do grievously err. And it happens a lot. Tragically.
It is absolutely a fact that there is also a rank and order to the resurrection.
Greater and lesser rewards will be merited at the bema seat.
Some stars shine brighter than others.
Yet more nervous breakdown material. But true nevertheless.
Your arrogance is unbecoming anyway, and all the more given that you completely missed the point.
“Cursed is the ground because of you” is something that most men work *against*, not with. It’s something that (most) Christian men don’t wish upon others nor do they tell others to embrace it or even accept it. They don’t cultivate the thorns and thistles, but remove them so good things can flourish.
There is a vast difference between rank and reward. You seem to be looking at these matters through very carnal, self-important lenses.
This seems to make sense, like someone mentioned earlier, it isn't church buildings but those who belong to Him that are the church.
Titus 3:9–11
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9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. 10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, thave nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Someone pointed this out earlier also, and i felt bad for even posting this thread tbh.
On the contrary, you are projecting your OWN self-importance by denying what is written.
You have no idea of what that passage means, nor the staggering implications. In other words, it is YOU who has missed the point.
And....you are back on ignore. You are just not packing the gear necessary to rightly scrutinize these vastly important matters.
Bumbling and sniping does not do the Scripture the justice it deserves.
Tell me I'm wrong, but it appears that the leaven of post-modernism is creeping and slithering into the Church and festering.
And the thing is: its doing so by deception, twisting and/or denying and/or defying Scripture. The usual methodology.
Sign of the times man, sign of the times.
Let us not forget @Snackersmom @Dino246 @Brasspen
There was a RANK and ORDER......to the Apostles!
In fact they were more or less divided into 4 groups.
Some had greater access, privilege and responsibility, some less.
A hierarchy that was instituted by the Chooser Himself. Who of course knew exactly what He was doing and why.
Oh the humanity!
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Derobo
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That verse is talking about the law and is intended for the jews, many jews back then had a hard time becoming a christian and when they became christians sometimes they acted superior to the gentile christians and would say something like ''im the seed of abraham'' or im circumcised, many of the jews didn't understand that the old covenant was obsolete and some of them created quarrels and thus division because of these things.
Gal 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
Gal 5:2 Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.
Gal 5:3 I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law.
Gal 5:4 You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.
so my friend, you cannot just apply a verse to a situation without looking at the context of the verse or the context of the new testament in general.
we have to stand up for the truth and what is in the bible, otherwise people won't know the truth.
all this being said Jesus said if someone won't listen we should brush our feet and leave as testimony against them , and leave it to God.
Mrk 6:11 And if any place will not receive you and they will not listen to you, when you leave, shake off the dust that is on your feet as a testimony against them.”
God bless you my friend, i hope you have a wonderfull and blessed day!!
may Jesus always be with you wherever you are.
What sins? Did not know their rank, station, order and place perhaps?
Num 16:26
And he spoke to the congregation, saying, “Depart now from the tents of these wicked men! Touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed in all their sins.”
Num 16:28
And Moses said: “By this you shall know that the LORD has sent me to do all these works, for I have not done them of my own will.
Num 16:30
“But if the LORD creates a new thing, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the pit, then you will understand that these men have rejected the LORD.”
Num 16:35
And a fire came out from the LORD and consumed the two hundred and fifty men who were offering incense.
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What is the problem here? Rebellion in the RANKS? Usurping God's ORDER?
Num 12:8
I speak with him face to face,
Even plainly, and not in dark sayings;
And he sees the form of the LORD.
Why then were you not afraid
To speak against My servant Moses?”
Num 12:9
So the anger of the LORD was aroused against them, and He departed.