The word of God is not a secret code that needs unlocked.
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There's James 1:5-7. With the "Double-minded" qualification.
God's truth is there and FREELY available - but there's "Fences" around it.
If you don't "seek wisdom" SINGLE-MINDEDLY, then you get nothing.
If you seek to use the written word to justify your own agenda / own denominational paradigm, then you can easily go off the track into religious fantasy - like the Roman Catholics have done with any number of pagan beliefs, that even a cursory knowledge of Scripture will allow you to see through. In the case of the LDS, or JW, or Branch Davidian, People's temple, etc heresies, Ignorance/rejection of Scripture is CENTRAL to their satanic fantasies. He even says that in end times he'll send STRONG DELUSIONS. (2 Thess 2:7-12)
If you REALLY WANT GOD'S MIND on things, He will fill your understanding.
He WILL, however, allow you to believe - even teach your personal private theological fantansies, and satan will happily help you to "prove them.
God's truth is there and FREELY available - but there's "Fences" around it.
If you don't "seek wisdom" SINGLE-MINDEDLY, then you get nothing.
If you seek to use the written word to justify your own agenda / own denominational paradigm, then you can easily go off the track into religious fantasy - like the Roman Catholics have done with any number of pagan beliefs, that even a cursory knowledge of Scripture will allow you to see through. In the case of the LDS, or JW, or Branch Davidian, People's temple, etc heresies, Ignorance/rejection of Scripture is CENTRAL to their satanic fantasies. He even says that in end times he'll send STRONG DELUSIONS. (2 Thess 2:7-12)
If you REALLY WANT GOD'S MIND on things, He will fill your understanding.
He WILL, however, allow you to believe - even teach your personal private theological fantansies, and satan will happily help you to "prove them.
Have a good day, Bob.
You are going to live with your own choices.
Don't blame the messenger when he clarified what was needed for repentance.
Tongues was to be a sign to the unbelieving Jews who would
refuse to believe. Just like Pharaoh refused to believe the signs given him.
https://israelmyglory.org/article/the-cessation-of-the-gift-of-tongues/
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You are going to live with your own choices.
Don't blame the messenger when he clarified what was needed for repentance.
Tongues was to be a sign to the unbelieving Jews who would
refuse to believe. Just like Pharaoh refused to believe the signs given him.
https://israelmyglory.org/article/the-cessation-of-the-gift-of-tongues/
......
God - since He's still empowering People (myself included) to manifest them.
Apparently your religious paradigm doesn't agree, so no biggie.
But you ignored my question: What's your "version" OF "THAT PERFECT"??? (1 Cor 13:10)
The "Bible" is the most common suggestion and even the "Printing Press" has been suggested. What's yours???
Apparently your religious paradigm doesn't agree, so no biggie.
But you ignored my question: What's your "version" OF "THAT PERFECT"??? (1 Cor 13:10)
The "Bible" is the most common suggestion and even the "Printing Press" has been suggested. What's yours???
Bob... we're just talking about tongues, and what was God's original intended purpose when it was given.
Not talking about "gifts" per se.
Feel free. You want to speak in tongues? Stick to your own kind.... And, feel free.
There are those who get stuck for a season in a tongues church.
They can not make sense of it.
Then people who think like you do, gaslight them.
It's for they whom I explain things for.
I do not plan on changing your mind...
Not talking about "gifts" per se.
Feel free. You want to speak in tongues? Stick to your own kind.... And, feel free.
There are those who get stuck for a season in a tongues church.
They can not make sense of it.
Then people who think like you do, gaslight them.
It's for they whom I explain things for.
I do not plan on changing your mind...
I would never attempt to exegete it, any more than perform the surgery that I know a certain doctor can.
I can only tell you about it.
You need to see the doctor for yourself.
He will show you. For free.
But for now.... Here is one translation that comes close to what is to be understood.
Acts 17:11
Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica,
for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures
every day to see if what Paul said was true.
And... here is something taken from notes from Bible class...
10~~And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea who having arrived went into the synagogue of the Jews.
(Note: As was Paul's custom, he went to the Jews first.)
11~~These {the Bereans} were more open minded than those in Thessalonica,
in that they received and retained the word with an eagerness of mind, and searched
the scriptures daily, if these things had it thus, and they wished it was so.
{4th class condition -they WISH, then after study, they know it to be true.}.
{Note: 'Open minded' was erroneously translated noble in some translations. And, the syntax of the Greek indicates that the Bereans were searching the Old Testament with the purpose of PROVING Paul CORRECT, NOT to prove him wrong as some suggest.}
Different class conditions to be found in the Greek rarely get translated correctly.
Matthew 4:3 is a prime example.
The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”
You would not know it from how many translations put it.
Satan was not doubting who Jesus was.
He was not pushing Jesus to prove He is the Son of God.
That understanding is to be found in knowing the 1st class condition found in the Greek text.
It should read more like this...
“If you are the Son of God (and you are), tell these stones to become bread.”
That introduces a new and specific question as to why Satan would say that.
Satan knew Jesus as God was able to turn the stones into bread.
So? Why was it a temptation, then?
grace and peace .........