Loss of salvation???
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please Notice Isaiah says we thought He was smitten by God, the implication being that we were dead wrong about that.
2 Timothy 2:13
He cannot deny Himself.
Isaiah 53:4
Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
please Notice Isaiah says we thought He was smitten by God, the implication being that we were dead wrong about that.
tell me more about the awe you feel considering God forsaking Himself.. ?
or is it awe that this very nice man was without cause completely forsaken by God for a couple hours?
if you drop His deity, the cross is powerless to save.
if you remember His deity, it is impossible that He is forsaken even for 1 millisecond.
don't mean to be rude.
there's more here than you think!
or is it awe that this very nice man was without cause completely forsaken by God for a couple hours?
if you drop His deity, the cross is powerless to save.
if you remember His deity, it is impossible that He is forsaken even for 1 millisecond.
don't mean to be rude.
there's more here than you think!
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God told him, "because you listened to the voice of your wife"
clearly they spoke after she ate.
at the time of that conversation:
she had sinned. she was separated from the presence of God, and he had not sinned, and was not separated from His presence.
she had been deceived, and he had not, and was not.
she had eaten poison
he had not.
what do you think she said to him?
clearly they spoke after she ate.
at the time of that conversation:
she had sinned. she was separated from the presence of God, and he had not sinned, and was not separated from His presence.
she had been deceived, and he had not, and was not.
she had eaten poison
he had not.
what do you think she said to him?
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if we will never experience sinless humanity there is no such thing as salvation.
you don't have to be God to be pre-fall Adam.
It was that thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. 
Christ's humanity is united to His Deity in a way you and I will never experience. We will not be God.
Christ's humanity is united to His Deity in a way you and I will never experience. We will not be God.
if we will never experience sinless humanity there is no such thing as salvation.
you don't have to be God to be pre-fall Adam.
i believe fully in the hypostatic union.
what i do not believe in is a version of it in which He must be stripped of deity in order to add humanity to Himself.
there is no kenosis - He set aside His glory, the train that filled the temple, not His divine power or personhood. what He emptied Himself of was perogative, taking instead the humble form of a servant.
you are a wise friend, i trust this make sense?
what i do not believe in is a version of it in which He must be stripped of deity in order to add humanity to Himself.
there is no kenosis - He set aside His glory, the train that filled the temple, not His divine power or personhood. what He emptied Himself of was perogative, taking instead the humble form of a servant.
you are a wise friend, i trust this make sense?
There can always be more to a story, doesn't necessarily mean the more is correct.
What I bolded is your opinion but I disagree.
Only humanity could die for humanity and only God could save. It is not impossible for the function of His Deity and humanity to work separately otherwise Jesus would have lied when He said "He did not know the day". As God, He knew. He was perfectly able to keep the function of His His Deity separate from His humanity. If it were not so, He could not have died.
What I bolded is your opinion but I disagree.
Only humanity could die for humanity and only God could save. It is not impossible for the function of His Deity and humanity to work separately otherwise Jesus would have lied when He said "He did not know the day". As God, He knew. He was perfectly able to keep the function of His His Deity separate from His humanity. If it were not so, He could not have died.
Good point. Yet, I do not believe dead spiritually. Physically< yes. For he went and preached to the spirits in prison. Held there by evil. Whom lost the keys evil had at that time to Jesus, upon the resurrection
Rev 1 he has the keys to Heaven and Hell now. Took them When resurrected. They were alive spirits, held there captive, waiting for God’s Messiah, known now as Jesus our Lord unto his Lord
Adam the first died spiritually to God, yet spiritually alive to the flesh. Dead to God. Which is why no flesh but Son’s flesh could and did please God.
‘Evil is still out and about Spiritually alive, playing God
there be dead to self, Romans 6, Phil 3. To becalive to God
what keeps people in unbelief totally is lust of the flesh of this world, lust of the eyes and the pride of life
asking myself, am I< are you willing to die?
thanks hope to have shown you God’s truth over all flesh and blood nature
Rev 1 he has the keys to Heaven and Hell now. Took them When resurrected. They were alive spirits, held there captive, waiting for God’s Messiah, known now as Jesus our Lord unto his Lord
Adam the first died spiritually to God, yet spiritually alive to the flesh. Dead to God. Which is why no flesh but Son’s flesh could and did please God.
‘Evil is still out and about Spiritually alive, playing God
there be dead to self, Romans 6, Phil 3. To becalive to God
what keeps people in unbelief totally is lust of the flesh of this world, lust of the eyes and the pride of life
asking myself, am I< are you willing to die?
thanks hope to have shown you God’s truth over all flesh and blood nature