Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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JayBird said:
Honestly, I'm kinda getting tired of repeating this.....lots and lots of audits in several states were done, some by Trump-picked entities.
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Generally I don't pay any attention to your posts and I think many others are doing the same. But on this post that I did respond to I was explaining why you can say that Audits have been done until you are blue in the face and no one is paying any attention to you. Find someone credible.

You tell us that "some Trump picked entities" did the audits. Bannon was a Trump picked entity and he would certainly report on such an audit. Mike Lindell is actively involved in working with every state government, all 50 of them, to make the voting process more secure and restore trust.

So if you are telling us the truth either Mike Lindell or Bannon would have reported on these "audits" done by "Trump entities". Share a link from them, they are credible, you are not.
 
JayBird said:
As long as you refuse to even look at what was done, there's nothing more to discuss. Ignorance can be overcome, deliberate willful ignorance can't.
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I am concerned about the talk of civil war, that is what I am focused on. Convincing me of some trivial topic is absurd, the goal should be to reconcile the country and if that is not the goal then you are simply involved in a hoodwink. Not interested.

Now if you convince key MAGA influencers that would interest me. Bannon and Mike Lindell are two of them, but there are more and they are now hosting the show since he is being held as a political prisoner by Biden's DOJ.

We have not been having a discussion because I have made my position quite plain to you more than three times and yet you still can't comprehend it. You ignore what I say so don't be surprised that many people on this forum ignore what you say.
 
ZNP said:
Generally I don't pay any attention to your posts and I think many others are doing the same. But on this post that I did respond to I was explaining why you can say that Audits have been done until you are blue in the face and no one is paying any attention to you. Find someone credible.

You tell us that "some Trump picked entities" did the audits. Bannon was a Trump picked entity and he would certainly report on such an audit. Mike Lindell is actively involved in working with every state government, all 50 of them, to make the voting process more secure and restore trust.

So if you are telling us the truth either Mike Lindell or Bannon would have reported on these "audits" done by "Trump entities". Share a link from them, they are credible, you are not.
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Again, if your approach is that you will only accept what Bannon and Lindell tell you, even on matters that you could easily look into yourself, I have nothing more to add.
 
SonJudgment said:
Well there's always revolution or elsewise just lying flat and being ground down by the misrule of the wicked until God just wipes them wholly.
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So now we're back to what I said before....civil war, and that brings me back to what I expressed earlier. I'm just fine living alongside people of different backgrounds, faiths, political views, and the like.

I see no need at all to start a "revolution" where people are killed.
 
JayBird said:
So now we're back to what I said before....civil war, and that brings me back to what I expressed earlier. I'm just fine living alongside people of different backgrounds, faiths, political views, and the like.

I see no need at all to start a "revolution" where people are killed.
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No, no one said civil war except for you. You should try to actually read what people write instead of trying to twist it to your own idea. Revolution, like national divorce, isn't the most ideal solution, but it's better than being ground down by the misrule of the wicked and smote by God.
 
JayBird said:
Again, if your approach is that you will only accept what Bannon and Lindell tell you, even on matters that you could easily look into yourself, I have nothing more to add.
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Well that exposes what a fraud your claim is. The highest rated news podcast that has election integrity as a top priority and you told us that "Trump entities" did the audit and yet you can't provide a link from Bannon's newscast? Not credible. That explains why you can keep talking till you are blue in the face and no one will listen.
 
SonJudgment said:
No, no one said civil war except for you. You should try to actually read what people write instead of trying to twist it to your own idea. Revolution, like national divorce, isn't the most ideal solution, but it's better than being ground down by the misrule of the wicked and smote by God.
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I'm not following.

If some states want a divorce and other states don't, and it results in a revolution, how is that not a civil war? Who is carrying out the revolution and who are they fighting?
 
We are going to vote in the Florida primary tomorrow. We have already selected our preferred candidates, and before we get out of the car at the polling place tomorrow, we will ask God to prevent us from voting for a candidate that he doesn't want us to vote for.

We do this every election, and more than once he has changed our mind while we were marking our ballots. We will leave the polling place satisfied that we listened to God.
 
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JayBird said:
I'm not following.

If some states want a divorce and other states don't, and it results in a revolution, how is that not a civil war? Who is carrying out the revolution and who are they fighting?
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A revolution would just be a change of the government by the people, this does not neccessarily mean there would be war, though of course there could be in the event that it is a revolution with a war then it would just be the illegitimates versus the people. A civil war is two or more factions fighting to seize the government, in this scenario which you propose it would be a political based civil war probably democrats versus republicans. The national divorce theory is basically an amicable peaceful resolution where the illegitimate problem states could form their own country or countries, in essence America could continue and the blue states could become one or more countries on their own. Then of course don't ignore the final possibility here where the wicked just seize power, the people being either so wicked themselves or so demoralized do not rise up, and so you just lie flat and get ground down some more and continue to be wicked until God just wipes the society wholly as he has done many many times in both the Bible and more widely history.
 
SonJudgment said:
A revolution would just be a change of the government by the people, this does not neccessarily mean there would be war, though of course there could be in the event that it is a revolution with a war then it would just be the illegitimates versus the people. A civil war is two or more factions fighting to seize the government, in this scenario which you propose it would be a political based civil war probably democrats versus republicans. The national divorce theory is basically an amicable peaceful resolution where the illegitimate problem states could form their own country or countries, in essence America could continue and the blue states could become one or more countries on their own. Then of course don't ignore the final possibility here where the wicked just seize power, the people being either so wicked themselves or so demoralized do not rise up, and so you just lie flat and get ground down some more and continue to be wicked until God just wipes the society wholly as he has done many many times in both the Bible and more widely history.
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Thanks for explaining.
 
JayBird said:
Thanks for explaining.
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It's pretty self-explanatory I frankly find it hard to believe that you did not understand before. Granting that you understand now, so you can see these are all possible scenarios from best to worst:

1. Trump restores the government, the public also repents, God blesses the nation. (David scenario)
2. Trump restores the government, but the public does not repent. God preserves the nation for only a short period of time before judging them even more harshly than before. (Josiah scenario)
3. National divorce theory goes into effect. The wicked form their own governments and they alone get smote by God but America gets preserved by God. (Jeroboam scenario)
4. Jezebel seizes the government but the public goes into revolution and thrusts the wicked out or purges them entirely, God blesses the new American nation (The Athaliah and Jehoram scenario)
5. Jezebel seizes power, the public is too wicked to have a revolution or a national divorce and even worse is complicit in the wickedness and actually desires to be wicked and to provoke God, so God consumes the nationand wipes them out justly by his righteous judgment. (The Zedekiah scenario)
 
Many pastors and Christians that have views similar to this pastor, including many I've talked to about U.S. politics in the past few years. Buuuut! MAGA supporters will insist that they aren't Christian....
 
Looks like once again Donald has proven himself to be a false prophet. First he predicted that Biden would stay in the race. When that didn't happen, he started saying Biden didn't really want out. He made a completely unhinged Truth Social post saying that Biden would crash the DNC and try to take back the nomination. Biden spoke Monday night at the DNC. Wouldn't that have been the perfect time to announce he was back in?

No, Donald is just showing how unserious he is about all this. Do we really need a President who apparently has no insight into what is right in front of him?
 
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ZNP said:
Well that exposes what a fraud your claim is. The highest rated news podcast that has election integrity as a top priority and you told us that "Trump entities" did the audit and yet you can't provide a link from Bannon's newscast? Not credible. That explains why you can keep talking till you are blue in the face and no one will listen.
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Alabama Secretary Of State Finds 3,000 Potential Noncitizens Registered To Vote

https://thefederalist.com/2024/08/1...000-potential-noncitizens-registered-to-vote/
 
JayBird said:
As noted in the article, that number could include people who became citizens after being assigned a noncitizen ID number.
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So they became registered voters prior to becoming a citizen. How does that work?
 
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