Not By Works
- Thread starter dcontroversal
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
2 soldiers of Christ should sleep well tonight knowing they comforted and ministered to a brother in need. @BillG @Everlasting-Grace
Thank you.
Thank you.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
Is it not the foundation of faith in Jesus?
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Acts 16:31
31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
The foundation is always Jesus and what he has done.
That is his is sacrfice on the cross, his resurrection for the forgiveness of sins.
Build on that then there is a problem.
Paul addressed this in
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Acts 16:31
31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
The foundation is always Jesus and what he has done.
That is his is sacrfice on the cross, his resurrection for the forgiveness of sins.
Build on that then there is a problem.
Paul addressed this in
1 Corinthians 3:11-15
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.
-
1
- Show all
Confession is to God not of ourselves, it is to say, God I need you and God to say to you, God's grace is sufficient for you. It is not of you to be good enough, no-one is. That is why God, sent Son for us all to clean the slate in getting you reconciled, by his one time willing death to give you new life in God's risen Son for us all, to believe and thus do new, by the done work of Father's risen Son for you. Which is at the start of God's sealing you in God and Son as Won (One) for you from day one anyone decides to believe God (Eph 1:13). This takes time to not quit ( not give up) belief to this truth of Father and Son for us all. When anyone will believe God in this amazing grace given. Then you will grow up in maturity to God and simply do without any interest in getting anything, here on earth you might want or have wanted, trusting God knows best for you too, whether or not you get wealth you might ask or have asked for, Father knows best. God sees and knows who is who and will do accordingly to let us know, God does just love us all. Otherwise Son would not have done what is is done for us to get new life given us in belief to his done work for us. Not ever to be taken for granted, rather appreciated in responding to it in thanksgiving and praise over it. sincerely
To rest and let go of this earth and all its wanting. To stand fast in trust to God to get you through it all. That is Faith filled from you to God between God and you
Therefore are you willing to die here and now, between God and you, that might be why you are not getting what you might want. What I have wanted in the past and got in spite of being told no, I found out it was not good for me and so now I see to simply agree with God who knows what is best for me, even if I do not think so. That is truth for us all
To rest and let go of this earth and all its wanting. To stand fast in trust to God to get you through it all. That is Faith filled from you to God between God and you
Therefore are you willing to die here and now, between God and you, that might be why you are not getting what you might want. What I have wanted in the past and got in spite of being told no, I found out it was not good for me and so now I see to simply agree with God who knows what is best for me, even if I do not think so. That is truth for us all
It sounds like you are saying you agree you can lose your salvation because you
did, but then you tell a story that does not sound like you lost your salvation.
John 6:37
did, but then you tell a story that does not sound like you lost your salvation.
John 6:37
Also, im still interested by what you said about molinism. If I make a thread about it, will you contribute and answer my questions about it? There is informatioun found on google but I have questions regarding particular verses. I read they believe in both free will of the creature and also God predestinating, but the way God does it is thru middle knowledge, He knows what choices a person will make and knows counterfactuals, I find that interesting and who knows maybe its the right way to marry the two, free will and predestination. Are you a molinist? Would you contribute to my thread if I made one? @Magenta
Hebrews is for the First chosen to read and hear and know truth. As only those that are sincere will hear and grow new in this grace given the, if they see Hebrews 5:12-Chapter 6 and see verse 3 of 6, if God permits, might be time to ask and stop being worried over stuff here and now, Matthew 6
Read Hebrews as if one of the first chosen that failed, to see it is done as said by Son in John 19:30, leaving=, left only one choice left
To beleive God or not believe God consciously. Stop the Hot and Cold, stop the doubt(s) that keep anyone from being established in Father and Son as won for you too.
Isaiah 7:9
Read Hebrews as if one of the first chosen that failed, to see it is done as said by Son in John 19:30, leaving=, left only one choice left
To beleive God or not believe God consciously. Stop the Hot and Cold, stop the doubt(s) that keep anyone from being established in Father and Son as won for you too.
Isaiah 7:9
Personally, I am not denying you believe God or not. That is between God and you, not me or anyone else and you
Romans 8:15-16, and you know, so if you believe God, then you have nothing to worry over do you?
Amen as we each share in care one to the other that the King has won for us to be new by Faith to God, it is done for us to be new. without belief to that, one will get caught up in doubt and try to do law and will bounce in and out, as has been being taught for centuries now after the resurrection to stop people from entering in.
Either it is done for you too or it is not yet by your beleif to this truth it is done John 19:30.
unless it gets settled in any person that it is done by Son for them, then one cannot walk new yet until one says thank you it is done for me to be new, I accept Father, thank you
Luke 21:14-15
Romans 8:15-16, and you know, so if you believe God, then you have nothing to worry over do you?
Amen as we each share in care one to the other that the King has won for us to be new by Faith to God, it is done for us to be new. without belief to that, one will get caught up in doubt and try to do law and will bounce in and out, as has been being taught for centuries now after the resurrection to stop people from entering in.
Either it is done for you too or it is not yet by your beleif to this truth it is done John 19:30.
unless it gets settled in any person that it is done by Son for them, then one cannot walk new yet until one says thank you it is done for me to be new, I accept Father, thank you
Luke 21:14-15
This looks like you are making this personal about me?
If that's the case then you don't know me.
Just read some of my posts this evening.
You cannot seem to grasp the question I asked concerning Hebrews which I asked @SavedByBlood yet you answered to me (that's not an issue that you did) yet you seem infer that maybe I don't.
Your response to me maybe should have been directed to @SavedByBlood whom I believe is saved.
If that's the case then you don't know me.
Just read some of my posts this evening.
You cannot seem to grasp the question I asked concerning Hebrews which I asked @SavedByBlood yet you answered to me (that's not an issue that you did) yet you seem infer that maybe I don't.
Your response to me maybe should have been directed to @SavedByBlood whom I believe is saved.
-
1
- Show all
It doesn't say it, I would have thought it would say their names would be blotted out.
When were the names put in the book of life?
Based on what you think all are in then some are tipexed out?
Was not Hebrews addressed to Isreal?
If so then they cannot be called back except for the ramnente.
When were the names put in the book of life?
Based on what you think all are in then some are tipexed out?
Was not Hebrews addressed to Isreal?
If so then they cannot be called back except for the ramnente.
-
1
- Show all