Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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I like the give me a break part, defending the things Trump said from from 2015 till now has me so exhausted I'm gonna take a vacation to Cozumel as soon as the election is over. As soon as he wins he said he was going on a mass deportation spree so maybe he'll force the foreigners to sell all their meat packing companies,convenience stores and fast food joints and move them all out of here. I went to his site Agenda47 and was going to post the video where he said it but all the videos are not there anymore did anyone else notice that?

No one has an issue with those who came/come legally. If you're illegal you need to go, yesterday.
 

Squigglylines

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No one has an issue with those who came/come legally. If you're illegal you need to go, yesterday.
No really in one of the videos he says that he's going to tax the Chinese,Muslim ect. owned companies in the US until they sell out and leave. Do you disagree with his approach?
 

ZNP

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She has had over 16 days to at least answer questions, she hasn't. No reason for it.





I wouldn't debate her either, not on ABC. If I did it would be the person and place I chose, she has no right to make any demands. Let's hope her VP is more loyal to her than she was to her boss. She better watch her step cause if Obama sees her slip he'll get rid of her too.




Exactly, the current president, which she isn't. While he's still in office, she should shut up and stay out of it. If she's the pick now, then Biden needs to step down and shut up. No one knows who the leader of the country is. He doesn't owe her a thing. Biden is still president. One needs to go. I don't know why the GOP are being as easy about it as they are. We have too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
I don't think a debate is very important anymore. Trump and Biden had a debate, we saw a lot there, and Kamala has been VP for 4 years. We know enough about both of these candidates to know where they stand. I highly doubt a debate would have much impact. Instead I think short ads and research on who these ones are and what their policies are will have much more impact.

I also think the US economy will have a major crash before the election so the only chance Harris will have is if she has a debate and is seen to win it in a very conclusive way. So there is no reason why Trump should give in on any demands concerning a debate.
 

Nehemiah6

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I highly doubt a debate would have much impact.
Yes. It would have a huge impact. The whole world would see that Kamala Harris should be unemployed since she has nothing to say and no ability to say anything. Plus she is a Communist and a liar, just like Walz.

But Trump would need to ask her direct questions rather than debate her. Like "Since you were the border Czar for Biden, when did you actually go to the border since January 2020, and where did you go to see the flood of illegals?" "Or was everything tidied up for you so that you could fool the public?"
 

ZNP

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Yes. It would have a huge impact. The whole world would see that Kamala Harris should be unemployed since she has nothing to say and no ability to say anything. Plus she is a Communist and a liar, just like Walz.

But Trump would need to ask her direct questions rather than debate her. Like "Since you were the border Czar for Biden, when did you actually go to the border since January 2020, and where did you go to see the flood of illegals?" "Or was everything tidied up for you so that you could fool the public?"
Everyone already knows that
 

Squigglylines

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You seem to think he is sinless. I try to provide objectivity... you seem to want an echo chamber. Label someone as having "TDS" because he dares objectively criticize Trump... even though he is considering voting for him. That makes about as much sense as Trump's definition of a "Black job".

You know in the brief time I've been a member here I've noticed that is sort of the general spirit in the threads. I cant tell whose who or which side anybody's on because if anyone brings up Trump inside two post we're talking about Biden's open border policy. It's like a comedy where when Trump says something and everyone's suppose to laugh they do like they are the canned laughs. Then if you try to discuss any of Trumps actual platform nobody seems to know anything about it and try's their best to explain what they think he means.
 

Nehemiah6

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Everyone already knows that
That is not the point. The point is to get Kamala to speak and address those questions before the whole world. That will show the world that she is an irresponsible liar who did not fulfil her primary responsibility. In a business or corporate setting she would have been immediately fired and also unemployed after that.
 

ZNP

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That is not the point. The point is to get Kamala to speak and address those questions before the whole world. That will show the world that she is an irresponsible liar who did not fulfil her primary responsibility. In a business or corporate setting she would have been immediately fired and also unemployed after that.
She is going to have to address the financial collapse. In a very short order that will be the only thing that matters until of course the attack.
 

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She is going to have to address the financial collapse. In a very short order that will be the only thing that matters until of course the attack.
The attack? Are UAP's,AI or the Russians going to attack us or are we going to attack somebody?
 

Mem

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You know in the brief time I've been a member here I've noticed that is sort of the general spirit in the threads. I cant tell whose who or which side anybody's on because if anyone brings up Trump inside two post we're talking about Biden's open border policy. It's like a comedy where when Trump says something and everyone's suppose to laugh they do like they are the canned laughs. Then if you try to discuss any of Trumps actual platform nobody seems to know anything about it and try's their best to explain what they think he means.
If you been living in bliss the past three years because your guy is governing, and you don't care whether anyone else is unhappy with him. He doesn't have to explain himself to you, he's got a free ticket to rule as far as you are concerned. Basically, Biden and his knighted stand-in's only argument comes down to that his opponent's supporters are ignorant for not being happy with him and anyone else that he sees fit to rule.

You might argue about the accuracy of my assessment but going by Smoke's own admission, he is on the fence about who to vote for, yet the only argument I have seen for Biden/hence Harris is why anyone should not vote for Trump while I've noted several extensive lists on reasons to vote for Him. Can you be helpful in offering good reason to vote for Trump's opponent, or whoever might eventually be expedited for the running?
 

Nehemiah6

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Then if you try to discuss any of Trumps actual platform nobody seems to know anything about it and try's their best to explain what they think he means.
That is incorrect. I have posted on one of these News threads the summary of Trump's platform, which has become the 2024 platform of the GOP. You can go to the GOP website for a full description. So have you seen Trump's platform and is there ONE SINGLE OBJECTIVE to which you or any sane and thoughtful person can object?

As to bringing up Biden's open borders (or any other of his destructive policies, actions, and executive orders) it is perfectly legitimate to compare Biden to Trump. The real issue which everyone had dodged is that Biden should not even be in the White House to begin with. And since this became evident to even his Democratic honchos, they are now promoting Communists Harris and Walz to hijack America. And once again the media are working on their behalf.

The choice for American voters is quite simple -- freedom vs Communist tyranny. And given the fact that the "election machinery" has been thoroughly corrupted and subverted, and millions of illegals will now vote for Kamala, the republic of the United States of America may well become a Communist country.
 

PennEd

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Then if you try to discuss any of Trumps actual platform nobody seems to know anything about it and try's their best to explain what they think he means.
Where did this thought even come from?

Frankly, it's absurd.

That's been the entire point of most Trump supporters since 2016.

He is personally a flawed human being, yet his vision and accomplishments for AMERICANS has been nothing short of stunning.

What part of what he has said he has done, and will do, do you disagree with?
 

ZNP

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The attack? Are UAP's,AI or the Russians going to attack us or are we going to attack somebody?
They have been planning the attack since 911 and since 2015 it was determined.

The Pandemic was the opening salvo in this war.

Before attacking the US they have to set up BRICS so that when the US dollar collapses they can take over. They have paid off government officials so that they would open the border and let enough soldiers in to cause havoc from within. They have also sabotaged 140+ food processing plants. They have gathered evidence in Ukraine of US crimes so that after the attack they will be able to justify it in international courts. They have also lured our forces away from our borders to either the Mid East or to Taiwan. They have also been very frank and open about their complaint so no one can accuse them of not having warned us first. Also we are clearly at war with Russia and Iran so there is no valid complaint about the attack being unprovoked or cowardly.
 

ZNP

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That is incorrect. I have posted on one of these News threads the summary of Trump's platform, which has become the 2024 platform of the GOP. You can go to the GOP website for a full description. So have you seen Trump's platform and is there ONE SINGLE OBJECTIVE to which you or any sane and thoughtful person can object?

As to bringing up Biden's open borders (or any other of his destructive policies, actions, and executive orders) it is perfectly legitimate to compare Biden to Trump. The real issue which everyone had dodged is that Biden should not even be in the White House to begin with. And since this became evident to even his Democratic honchos, they are now promoting Communists Harris and Walz to hijack America. And once again the media are working on their behalf.

The choice for American voters is quite simple -- freedom vs Communist tyranny. And given the fact that the "election machinery" has been thoroughly corrupted and subverted, and millions of illegals will now vote for Kamala, the republic of the United States of America may well become a Communist country.
I think squiggly has confused Trump with Harris. It is reasonable since she has been flip flopping and all of her policies are now pretend Trump policies.
 

ZNP

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Where did this thought even come from?

Frankly, it's absurd.

That's been the entire point of most Trump supporters since 2016.

He is personally a flawed human being, yet his vision and accomplishments for AMERICANS has been nothing short of stunning.

What part of what he has said he has done, and will do, do you disagree with?
I think this is a result of confusing Harris with Trump now that she is adopting all of his policies and no one has any idea what she stands for.
 

Squigglylines

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If you been living in bliss the past three years because your guy is governing, and you don't care whether anyone else is unhappy with him. He doesn't have to explain himself to you, he's got a free ticket to rule as far as you are concerned. Basically, Biden and his knighted stand-in's only argument comes down to that his opponent's supporters are ignorant for not being happy with him and anyone else that he sees fit to rule.

You might argue about the accuracy of my assessment but going by Smoke's own admission, he is on the fence about who to vote for, yet the only argument I have seen for Biden/hence Harris is why anyone should not vote for Trump while I've noted several extensive lists on reasons to vote for Him. Can you be helpful in offering good reason to vote for Trump's opponent, or whoever might eventually be expedited for the running?

Leftest #1
 

Squigglylines

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That is incorrect. I have posted on one of these News threads the summary of Trump's platform, which has become the 2024 platform of the GOP. You can go to the GOP website for a full description. So have you seen Trump's platform and is there ONE SINGLE OBJECTIVE to which you or any sane and thoughtful person can object?

As to bringing up Biden's open borders (or any other of his destructive policies, actions, and executive orders) it is perfectly legitimate to compare Biden to Trump. The real issue which everyone had dodged is that Biden should not even be in the White House to begin with. And since this became evident to even his Democratic honchos, they are now promoting Communists Harris and Walz to hijack America. And once again the media are working on their behalf.

The choice for American voters is quite simple -- freedom vs Communist tyranny. And given the fact that the "election machinery" has been thoroughly corrupted and subverted, and millions of illegals will now vote for Kamala, the republic of the United States of America may well become a Communist country.
Leftest #2
 

Squigglylines

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Where did this thought even come from?

Frankly, it's absurd.

That's been the entire point of most Trump supporters since 2016.

He is personally a flawed human being, yet his vision and accomplishments for AMERICANS has been nothing short of stunning.

What part of what he has said he has done, and will do, do you disagree with?
Leftist #3
 

Squigglylines

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They have been planning the attack since 911 and since 2015 it was determined.

The Pandemic was the opening salvo in this war.

Before attacking the US they have to set up BRICS so that when the US dollar collapses they can take over. They have paid off government officials so that they would open the border and let enough soldiers in to cause havoc from within. They have also sabotaged 140+ food processing plants. They have gathered evidence in Ukraine of US crimes so that after the attack they will be able to justify it in international courts. They have also lured our forces away from our borders to either the Mid East or to Taiwan. They have also been very frank and open about their complaint so no one can accuse them of not having warned us first. Also we are clearly at war with Russia and Iran so there is no valid complaint about the attack being unprovoked or cowardly.

Leftist #4