What do you all think of J.D. Vance?

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hornetguy

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Wow really? You see nothing wrong with claiming to be a Christian and yet joining in false religion!?! Clearly you don't begin to understand the spiritual significance.
Having another religion give a statement, or blessing in a wedding ceremony is in NO way joining in a false religion.
I am sound enough and secure enough in my belief in God that I am not swayed, convinced, or coerced in any way when someone of another faith speaks in my presence.
Living in that kind of narrow-minded world is not what we are called to do. We are to be salt and light to a flawed world.
 

Prodigal

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Zionist Whore with a strong Lindsey Graham closet homosexual kind of vibe. The perfect running mate for Orange Jesus. He could probably skin and roast a small child on a busy city sidewalk and the faux christian right would tell us it's OK, since he didn't have time to stop for lunch.
 

Moses_Young

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Wrong again, snowflake... these are quotes from that ultra-conservative bastion of news.... the Al Jazeera network....

"Vance’s staunch support for a strong US-Israel relationship rests on his view that the country is essential to protecting US interests in the Middle East, according to Seth Eisenberg, CEO of PAIRS Foundation, a US-based organisation.

Vance supports continued military aid to Israel, emphasising that a secure Israel contributes to regional stability and aligns with American strategic interests. He advocates for close diplomatic and defence cooperation, recognising Israel’s role as a democracy in a volatile region,” Eisenberg told Al Jazeera."

"He is part of a stream of Republicans arguing for a hands-off approach to foreign policy. That policy prioritises US interests, is dubious about military intervention, and questions the US’s longstanding approach to global alliances."
That is actually what HeIsHere was saying, and snowflake is an insult which gets returned to sender when the one using it gets it so wrong.

Vance apparently doesn't want to get the US involved in a war in Ukraine (that the US started and perpetuated) is what I said, but he somehow appears happy enough to take the US to war for the Rothschild state of Israel. Hypocrite, if true. But I'm hoping (perhaps naively) its some sort of bluff.
 

hornetguy

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That is actually what HeIsHere was saying, and snowflake is an insult which gets returned to sender when the one using it gets it so wrong.
That's a pretty silly statement...
Vance apparently doesn't want to get the US involved in a war in Ukraine (that the US started and perpetuated) is what I said, but he somehow appears happy enough to take the US to war for the Rothschild state of Israel. Hypocrite, if true. But I'm hoping (perhaps naively) its some sort of bluff.
That's wrong on just about every level. The quote I posted was Vance's view on the US taking an active role militarily in either Ukraine OR Gaza/wherever.

You go ahead and spin it to suit your preconceived TDS notions, but facts are facts.
 

Moses_Young

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That's a pretty silly statement...
I'm glad you admit it.

That's wrong on just about every level. The quote I posted was Vance's view on the US taking an active role militarily in either Ukraine OR Gaza/wherever.
I hope you're right. My statement "Hypocrite, if true", indicated that if Vance is taking the same view on Israel he claims on Ukraine, I don't view him as a hypocrite. I'm spelling it out as you didn't seem to get it when I summarised.

You go ahead and spin it to suit your preconceived TDS notions, but facts are facts.
I've been anti-Communist before Trump came along and it became popular to call them what they are. To accuse me of TDS is... well, as you say, spin-doctoring based on your own preconceived notions.
 

HeIsHere

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Vance apparently doesn't want to get the US involved in a war in Ukraine (that the US started and perpetuated) is what I said, but he somehow appears happy enough to take the US to war for the Rothschild state of Israel. Hypocrite, if true. But I'm hoping (perhaps naively) its some sort of bluff.

Correct, because guess who funds him, as per usual.
 

hornetguy

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I hope you're right. My statement "Hypocrite, if true", indicated that if Vance is taking the same view on Israel he claims on Ukraine, I don't view him as a hypocrite. I'm spelling it out as you didn't seem to get it when I summarised.
You are the one that doesn't seem to get it... or you refuse to acknowledge his stated position on Israel. It appears that you WANT him to be for our involvement in Israel, so you can say "see, I told you so"

The quote that I provided should have put your fears to rest about Israel, but you seem determined to insinuate that Vance wants us involved.. THAT'S where your TDS is showing.

No big deal to me, either way you want to go on it. Time will tell what his position is.
 

hornetguy

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I'm glad you admit it.
I do admit that you were silly in posting that.... reminds me of kids on the playground.... "I'm rubber and you're glue...." silliness....
I'm certain you remember THAT little rhyme...
 

Moses_Young

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You are the one that doesn't seem to get it... or you refuse to acknowledge his stated position on Israel. It appears that you WANT him to be for our involvement in Israel, so you can say "see, I told you so"
Your quote was this:

“Vance supports continued military aid to Israel, emphasising that a secure Israel contributes to regional stability and aligns with American strategic interests. He advocates for close diplomatic and defence cooperation, recognising Israel’s role as a democracy in a volatile region,” Eisenberg told Al Jazeera."

That's getting involved in Israel, so is hypocrisy. I'm hoping he doesn't get involved (i.e. providing military aid), but if he carries out what he says in your quote, he's a hypocrite.

The quote that I provided should have put your fears to rest about Israel, but you seem determined to insinuate that Vance wants us involved.. THAT'S where your TDS is showing.
This just shows you won't accept facts. I like Trump. I don't trust him 100%, but I certainly don't have TDS. And your quote indicated Vance wants to continue to be involved in Israel. Supporting Israel with arms is being involved.
 

Moses_Young

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I do admit that you were silly in posting that.... reminds me of kids on the playground.... "I'm rubber and you're glue...." silliness....
I'm certain you remember THAT little rhyme...
I thought you were admitting your silliness for calling someone a snowflake when you're more a snowflake than he? Or is that your TDS? Be careful not to melt! :p
 

hornetguy

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“Vance supports continued military aid to Israel, emphasising that a secure Israel contributes to regional stability and aligns with American strategic interests. He advocates for close diplomatic and defence cooperation, recognising Israel’s role as a democracy in a volatile region,” Eisenberg told Al Jazeera."

"He is part of a stream of Republicans arguing for a hands-off approach to foreign policy. That policy prioritises US interests, is dubious about military intervention, and questions the US’s longstanding approach to global alliances."

And your quote indicated Vance wants to continue to be involved in Israel. Supporting Israel with arms is being involved.
He wants to be involved the same way EVERY president has been involved since, what, Eisenhower? EVERY administration has supported Israel with military arms, etc.... it's what countries DO for their allies. Good grief, you need to grow up and actually LEARN something about our military "involvement" before you start spouting your Pollyanna ideals....

The quote from AL JAZEERA even says he is dubious about military intervention.... in case you don't get it, that means he DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED MILITARILY..... which is what the original foolish statement purported.
 

hornetguy

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I think I'm done dealing with idiots for a while... my head is beginning to hurt from banging it against your wall of stupidity.....
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I think it's called "bettering yourself".
Would you prefer he act like an un-educated redneck hillbilly all his life? It's amazing to me what some people "find" to criticize.

MOST people would admire someone that came from practically nothing, to become a success story..... most people.
The Lord uses all kinds of people.
I've been with the rich and poor.
Nothing against Vance, he's done quite a lot and is just about the VP. Hope he's perfect for the job.

I've found that the poor folks in nursing homes are the ones that I want to focus most my time and energy serving. With exceptions, they are most open to the gospel.
The Spirit of the Lord supernaturally just had me open to this in my paper Bible.

18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted...

-Jesus
Luke 4
 

Moses_Young

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I think I'm done dealing with idiots for a while... my head is beginning to hurt from banging it against your wall of stupidity.....
The point - which you seem to have missed once again - possibly due to banging your head against that wall instead of using what God put inside of it - is that it is hypocrisy to provide funding for arms for Israel, and yet complain about war funding for Ukraine as her people die fighting a war orchestrated by Washington.
 

Nehemiah6

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To my surprise, though, most of the comments on YouTube were surprisingly positive.[/QUOTE]And why would they not be? If J.D. Vance is now 100% with Trump, and Trump is 100% for America (unlike the domestic enemies) then Vance is the right pick for VP. He is not afraid of the Leftists and their tactics. "Vance responded. “Look, I’m a husband, I’m a father, I’m happily married, and I love my life, and I am doing this because I want to be a good public servant who fixes the problems of the Democrats.” "
JD Vance: Democrats Calling Me ‘Weird’ Is ‘A Lot Of Projection’ By Them (dailywire.com)
 

Nehemiah6

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...it is hypocrisy to provide funding for arms for Israel, and yet complain about war funding for Ukraine as her people die fighting a war orchestrated by Washington.
No it is not hypocrisy but wisdom. The proxy war of the West through Ukraine was of no benefit to anyone (including the Ukrainians). After all those billions down the drain, and all those lives lost or devastated, Ukraine now sees that it must sit down and negotiate peace. And that could have been done right at the start, had the West not sabotaged every attempt at a peace deal.

Supporting Israel is a totally different matter. Israel is surrounded by Muslim and Arab nations who vowed right from the start to exterminate Israelis and wipe out Israel. America was the only ally of Israel for decades until Obama and Biden came along.

They gave the arch enemy of Israel -- Iran -- billions of dollars to fund terrorism against Israel and the world. And all these lame and late attempts by the Biden administration at this point do not make up for that. Biden and Blinken kept interfering with Israel to make sure that the terrorists were NOT wiped out.

But Israel allowed this war to go on for too long. Had they quickly and effectively shut down Gaza, Iran, the Houthis and Hezbollah would not have had a chance to get involved. And now we have a bigger issue because Netanyahu did not simply ignore Biden to begin with. There was no possibility of rescuing the hostages, since most of them were eventually murdered by those sadists.

The real issue is that had Donald Trump rightfully remained as president, none of this would have happened. He was shutting down Iran, but there too he was not drastic enough. The ayatollahs and mullahs only understand decisive action. The US and Israel should have jointly wiped out Iran's military and nuclear capability.
 

Mem

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You unmitigated hatred and contempt for Trump and Vance is not impressive.
I've decided my study topic going forward this week will be looking into the comedic "element of truth." And the fact that those that view Trump as Jesus but project it as though it is actually our view, of either Trump or Jesus, reveals something about their own twisted view of Jesus, as much as of Trump.