Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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SonJudgment

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My friends are calling it "wrestlemania" lol but the Trump vs Biden debate tonight is already going to be amazing. Thoughts on the debate before it happens? I think it might go actually very well. There's been hints then of Trump's VP selection being in the audience and that perhaps this will be announced either before the debate or, i suppose if Trump does well, sometime shortly after the debates to ride the wave as it were. Should be kinda exciting for the politics which kinda become stale since the primaries got ended pretty quickly.
 

ResidentAlien

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It's all political theater. So, my thoughts are, those who enjoy theater will eat it up.
 

iamsoandso

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My friends are calling it "wrestlemania" lol but the Trump vs Biden debate tonight is already going to be amazing. Thoughts on the debate before it happens? I think it might go actually very well. There's been hints then of Trump's VP selection being in the audience and that perhaps this will be announced either before the debate or, i suppose if Trump does well, sometime shortly after the debates to ride the wave as it were. Should be kinda exciting for the politics which kinda become stale since the primaries got ended pretty quickly.

You did this,you did that,,,,no you did,I'm innocent,no your not,,your a drug addict,,your a felon,,your shoes are on the wrong feet, your hairs messed up, you stumble sometimes,, I'm the greatest, no I am,,, then we all debate on the social media and news for the next half a year trying to figure out where they even stand on the issues that effect our lives.
 

SonJudgment

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Yes, it is a theater hence the funny title "wrestlemania" that my friends are calling it, but the theater counts for this one I think. There is a lot of hype around this even for those that aren't big on politics. Despite the theater or in spite of it I think there is the real potential that Trump could just perform so well, not just win the debate, but harrow Biden so much that this debate could possibly grant him victory.
 

iamsoandso

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Yes, it is a theater hence the funny title "wrestlemania" that my friends are calling it, but the theater counts for this one I think. There is a lot of hype around this even for those that aren't big on politics. Despite the theater or in spite of it I think there is the real potential that Trump could just perform so well, not just win the debate, but harrow Biden so much that this debate could possibly grant him victory.

I bet most of us in the US are past the point of being entertained by one guy talking over the other just to minimize the amount of mud the other guy's slinging and just want them both to put their big boy clothes on and directly answer the questions their being ask on the issues.
 

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You said "now considering" but Trump first shifted to the 15weeks(3 weeks shy of mid term of pregnancy),, way back when all the others(DeSantis,Haley,Christie,Pence ect.) were trying to get the GOP nomination. What happened is DeSantis was saying he thought the magic number should be 6 weeks,,,Trump then said they couldn't win that way and began pushing the 15 weeks.
Interesting.
I haven't been following since I am not voting but saw this headline.
Thank You for updating me (y)
 

SonJudgment

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Hopefully tonight's debate will reveal more of Trump's wickedness and lunacy...
Haven't finished all of it but i like at the start that is kinda an interesting plotline I am seeing which seems to point to the possible sequel plotline of Trump picking his VP. Ben Carson was on FOX earlier and will be at the debate indeed, but he seemed to play down him being the VP, so that's kinda interesting.

 

ZNP

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Joe Biden has a lot to boast about.

First, he has been very good for the economy if your wealth is in the stock market, or if you work for the industrial military complex. I would think anyone who got a piece of the $160 billion that went to Ukraine, or the contracts to Israel or Taiwan would be fully in the Biden camp.

Second, this doesn't mean he only caters to the rich elites, he has also been very, very good to the poor. He is trying to pay off college loans to kids who majored in gender studies, and he has opened the doors of this country wide to the poor of the world, ten million or more. Drug dealers and human traffickers are people also and Biden appreciates them more than just about anyone on this planet. Never have illegal immigrants been treated better than they are now.

Third, he can boast about how under his administration crime is down. By redefining what is and especially what isn't a criminal act we have all but eliminated many crimes. I think Trump should especially appreciate that this is a new world for felons, as Biden releases the felons from the prison doors.

Fourth, he can boast about the promises kept concerning foreign policy. For example, did Biden start WWIII with a 3 am tweet? No way anyone is going to make that claim. Are the adults back in charge? These adults understand how profitable war is, you would not see them getting us out of wars like Trump or not even starting any wars like Trump, that is so naive. Instead of making politicians spend hours and hours on the phone begging for donations he simply sent $160 billion to Ukraine and then had a small portion of that come back and pay for the campaigns of all his friends. So yes, don't you worry your sweet little head about all this, the adults are back in charge.

Now there are some who are too stupid to understand things are better. Are they repossessing your car because you can't afford it? Yes, but that means you won't be pumping as much pollution into the air, it means when you are riding your bicycle to work you will be getting in good shape and when they institute the new rules about tying how much meat you can buy with your CO2 emissions you will be happy you don't have that car. Is food too expensive to buy so that you now go hungry at the end of each pay cycle? That is a good thing, Americans were overweight and obese, this is how much Biden loves you, call it tough love. Are your kids going to get drafted for WWIII? Would you rather they played video games all day long?
 

ZNP

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The Knives are out!

Michelle Obama unsheaths her knife on the morning of the debate. Meanwhile Axios and Politico are releasing polls showing how badly Biden is getting crushed at the same time (two intelligence agency controlled mouthpieces).

Now get this, if the Ashley Biden diary is real, and it has been confirmed to be 100% her handwritten diary and if the Hunter Biden laptop is real and that too has been confirmed 100%, then the Biden family is, regardless of whatever else you might think about them, a pack of feral dogs.
 

iamsoandso

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Interesting.
I haven't been following since I am not voting but saw this headline.
Thank You for updating me (y)

I watched the interview back when he did it and was more confused after it than before I saw it. Why is SCOTUS had already decided R/W was up to the states and she was asking him what "he" would do. When the topic came up as to whether he was meaning 15 weeks on a federal level(all states) or if it was one state has one thing while another a different set of laws he said the states should decide(SCOTUS decision) so she ask if it came across his desk would he sign it and he talked but never said yes or no. Then currently after SCOTUS ruled it a state matter it leaked out in the news the last few days that Idaho must ect. which means it's a state decision,,well unless the SCOTTUS picks their own decision apart piece by piece and state by state. So was it actually up to them the whole time and not really up to the states? It's like they're arguing with their own selves in the mirror,lol... https://www.courthousenews.com/idaho-must-provide-emergency-abortion-access-supreme-court-rules/
 

iamsoandso

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The Knives are out!

Michelle Obama unsheaths her knife on the morning of the debate. Meanwhile Axios and Politico are releasing polls showing how badly Biden is getting crushed at the same time (two intelligence agency controlled mouthpieces).

Now get this, if the Ashley Biden diary is real, and it has been confirmed to be 100% her handwritten diary and if the Hunter Biden laptop is real and that too has been confirmed 100%, then the Biden family is, regardless of whatever else you might think about them, a pack of feral dogs.

Just curious but did you see any of the things they said about the cryptographic signatures on the laptop's forensic analysis after it was in Mac Issac and Giuliani's possession?
 

ZNP

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Just curious but did you see any of the things they said about the cryptographic signatures on the laptop's forensic analysis after it was in Mac Issac and Giuliani's possession?
No, I don't follow these things that close, knowing that they are liars and corrupt is about as deep as I want to go. I'll let the courts and the Lord deal with the details.
 

iamsoandso

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No, I don't follow these things that close, knowing that they are liars and corrupt is about as deep as I want to go. I'll let the courts and the Lord deal with the details.

I sort of thought something on that order because you keep bringing it up but if your curious at all the hard-drive was tampered with after Mac Issac was in possession of it and multiple files were added to it.
 

Billyd

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IMHO the debate tonight will be the largest joke pulled on the people in the history of our country. What a waste of the peoples time. There will be enough fertilizer spread to grow all the crops in the entire world.

Do yourself a favor. Watch "Gunsmoke" tonight. No matter what the subject is, Matt Dillon will put on a much more entertaining show, and he always gets the outlaws.
 

iamsoandso

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IMHO the debate tonight will be the largest joke pulled on the people in the history of our country. What a waste of the peoples time. There will be enough fertilizer spread to grow all the crops in the entire world.

Do yourself a favor. Watch "Gunsmoke" tonight. No matter what the subject is, Matt Dillon will put on a much more entertaining show, and he always gets the outlaws.

Next time Gunsmoke comes on(old black and white ones) when Matt Dillon and the other guy are about to shoot at each other(camera changes back and forth and you don't see them both at the same time) listen real close to which gun goes off first(other guys goes off first then Dillon's),,,, Always made me wonder why they never edited that part,lol