The hatred of Jews

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But Zechariah 14:12 doesn't say that those IN Jerusalem will be consumed. It says that those who fought AGAINST Jerusalem will be consumed. Those in Jerusalem are being protected in the passage, not judged. So if you believe there's a pending AOD, we can't use Zech 14:12 as proof text.

Truth be told, I also believe those currently controlling Jerusalem will be burnt up. Are they abominable? Indeed they are. But not as apostate Israel, but as the fulfillment of Edom pretending to be Israel just like Jacob pretended to be Esau.

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Remember that Esau rejected his birthright, so it was promised to Jacob...however, once again in trying to force a promise (like mankind does), Jacob listened to his mother and lied to Isaac to steal the birthright & blessing from Esau. Unnecessary.

These sins still had to be punished. The scales had to be balanced because The Almighty's law says an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

When the children of Israel were obedient they were referred to as "Israel" but when they were living in disobedience they were referred to as "Jacob". So when the people began suffering through their great tribulation, also known as "'Jacob's' trouble", during their punishment (i.e., their persecution, scattering into the nations, and worshiping of false religions - like Islam - after losing their identity), they also had to have their birthright & blessings stolen from them by Edomites pretending to be Israelites. The Law must be satisfied. Always.

Hence the passages in Revelation that say in the end times, there would be people who say they are Jews but who are not and who do lie (Rev 2.9 & 3.9).

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Several passages prophesy that judgment will fall on Edom; they are a people doomed for destruction (i.e., sons of perdition). You can read Obadiah 1 for a prophecy of them burning up and read Ezekiel 35 & 36 for a prophecy of them being doomed because of their violence against their brother Jacob.
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The people in Jerusalem are not being protected in zech 14:1-2.
Jerusalem is taken by Israels enemies and the Jewish women are being raped .Theen will lay dead while their wives are being raped over and over.

Zech 14

14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city


The abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem 3.5 days after Jerusalem is taken by Israels enemies and they will be celebrating in the streets of Jerusalem per revelation 11.10 for 3.5 days.


Them who are in judea flee when they see the abomination of desolation.
Here they are fleeing in zech 14:5.


5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.



The people who came against and took Jerusalem will be instantly consumed wherein them in judea in the fields will flee in haste.

Zech 14
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth




There will be a great earthquake and a cloud shall ascend into heaven as a result of the abomination of desolation.

Revelation 11:12-13

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.




Funny thing about Muslims ,many of them will give glory to God just before they burst into flames.You ever notice that?

Allahu Akbar
It is Arabic for "God is the greatest".
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
Funny thing about Muslims ,many of them will give glory to God just before they burst into flames.You ever notice that?

Allahu Akbar
It is Arabic for "God is the greatest".
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The god they are referring to is 'Allah' and not the God of heaven.
 
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GaryA said:
The god they are referring to is 'Allah' and not the God of heaven.
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The word Allah just means God in Arabic.
A Christian speaking Arabic would say the word Allah when talking about God.

Christian Arabs used the word Allah before Mohamed was even born.Long before.
 
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What really disturbs me is that the hatred of Jews is on the rise again. Both here and in Europe.

People I know and who I thought were intelligent and good people are just jumping on the bandwagon supporting Palestine no matter what.

I’m not ashamed to say I support Israel and the Jews, but golly how much trouble that causes me.

Nevertheless, I stand by Israel and the Jews!
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sister in christ, you are worshipping at the altars of baal, jesus warned us of this deception in revelation 2 and 3, these are the devils that he contended with and exposed

Today's decendents of Esau-Edom are the people in the Land of Israel today calling themselves Jews.
The Khazar Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe are the biblical Edomites just as the bible said, they would take the Land in the last days.
Book of Ezekiel chapter 36 vs 5. “
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Surely in the fire of my jealousy I have spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea,(Edomites) Which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their hearts, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.”

They did this in 1948 using the Balfour declaration to take the land funded by the satanic rothschild family

The book of 2nd Esdras (Apocrypha) chapter 6 vs 9 “
For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

paul makes the distinction between the 12 hebrew tribes and the jews in Act 26:5-7
“And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: 7Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews”

1 Thessalonians 2:14,15
14For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: 15Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all mankind

i could go on and on but jesus told us “by their fruits shall you know them”

sister in christ, what you are seeing in palestine is an anti christ political strategy called zionism in order to fool unlearned christians, this delusion is soo deep that the same money used to buy the land in palestine also funded C.I Scofield in order to further dupe christians by changing the terms “judeean” and “nations” to “jew” and “gentile” in his 1800’s retranslation from the kjv terming “gentile” as “non jew”
 
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MikeIsraelite72 said:
sister in christ, you are worshipping at the altars of baal,”
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You need to be very careful of what you are saying. I have warned another here that has this false doctrine. God is not finished with the Jews. God made an unconditional and everlasting covenant with the Jews. God will keep His promise. Because if He won't keep His promises to the Jew, He won't keep them to YOU. And you will not have a hope in heaven. You need to watch what you say.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
You need to be very careful of what you are saying. I have warned another here that has this false doctrine. God is not finished with the Jews. God made an unconditional and everlasting covenant with the Jews. God will keep His promise. Because if He won't keep His promises to the Jew, He won't keep them to YOU. And you will not have a hope in heaven. You need to watch what you say.
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God never promised Benjamin netanyahu he would save him.Nor did he promise king Herod or Caiaphas
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
God never promised Benjamin netanyahu he would save him.Nor did he promise king Herod or Caiaphas
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Romans 11 says what He promised. You don't speak for God. He can graft them in again. Doesn't need your opinion or feelings on the matter at all.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
You need to be very careful of what you are saying. I have warned another here that has this false doctrine. God is not finished with the Jews. God made an unconditional and everlasting covenant with the Jews. God will keep His promise. Because if He won't keep His promises to the Jew, He won't keep them to YOU. And you will not have a hope in heaven. You need to watch what you say.
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This is what Jesus has to say to Jews who believe they are the recipients of the promises.



John 5
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.



There are very few Jews who believe Jesus.Most reject him as they have for thousands of years.But there is a small remnant who believe him and are Baptised into Christ.It is they who recieve the promises.Not people like king Herod who wanted to kill him or Caiaphas who spit in Jesus face.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
You need to be very careful of what you are saying. I have warned another here that has this false doctrine. God is not finished with the Jews. God made an unconditional and everlasting covenant with the Jews. God will keep His promise. Because if He won't keep His promises to the Jew, He won't keep them to YOU. And you will not have a hope in heaven. You need to watch what you say.
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Please seriously consider what I am going to say. Do not react. Instead, do the research - and, you will eventually discover these things to be true.

It is not a false doctrine - MikeIsraelite72 is telling the truth - modern-day Israel is not "true Israel" from a purely biblical perspective.

The dry bones prophecy was not fulfilled in 1948; rather, it will be fulfilled at/after the Second Coming of Christ - by Christ Himself!

God will absolutely most certainly honor his promises to the Jews - after the Second Coming of Christ - in/during the Millennium.

Please try to understand this.

Whether or not MikeIsraelite72 should have made the remark you quoted is a separate issue. (Albeit, I consider it unnecessary.)

What is happening in the world today with regard to Israel is a separate issue. (Albeit, I consider a lot of it totally unnecessary.)

This post is intended for one reason only - to prompt you to look a bit deeper into what has been said - because, it is the truth.

So - please...

Do not react. Instead, do the research - and, you will eventually discover these things to be true.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Romans 11 says what He promised. You don't speak for God. He can graft them in again. Doesn't need your opinion or feelings on the matter at all.
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And I know who God promised.

Them who believe in Jesus and are Baptised into Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.



All Jews who reject Christ are not heirs with Christ.You are mistaken and in direct conflict with the gospel of Christ.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
This is what Jesus has to say to Jews who believe they are the recipients of the promises.



John 5
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.



There are very few Jews who believe Jesus.Most reject him as they have for thousands of years.But there is a small remnant who believe him and are Baptised into Christ.It is they who recieve the promises.Not people like king Herod who wanted to kill him or Caiaphas who spit in Jesus face.
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Jews are blinded until the Gentiles come in. You have no right to say who will and will not be saved. Never mind talking foolishness and talking about the past. God said He will restore.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Jews are blinded until the Gentiles come in. You have no right to say who will and will not be saved. Never mind talking foolishness and talking about the past. God said He will restore.
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The Bible says who will and will not be saved.

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.



Like everyone else,the Jews who don't believe are damned.They are no better than any other non believers.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
And I know who God promised.

Them who believe in Jesus and are Baptised into Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.



All Jews who reject Christ are not heirs with Christ.You are mistaken and in direct conflict with the gospel of Christ.
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Oh my soul that people would listen!! No wonder so many leave the church when even Christians don't know the truth and won't listen. For the millionth time on here, Romans 11 is clear. No where in Romans 11 does it say Jews don't have to come through the cross!! Of course the do!! That's what Romans 11 is talking about!! READ IT!! He is able to graft them back in again, He will forgive their sins, they will come the same way we ALL do!!

Now as to the land promise. READ IT. It is very specific!!! The promise is passed down from generation to generation. The Jews have been punished because of unbelief, and they have lost use of the land down through the ages. But they never lost the deed! God made a promise of specific land, that He said He would gather them to from all over the world. He was very specific about naming it's borders. Why??? Christ already knows the borders. God made an unconditional land promise to the Jews, everlasting!! The call is
irrevocable, Romans says. smh Unreal. A child in Sunday school could understand this.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
Oh my soul that people would listen!! No wonder so many leave the church when even Christians don't know the truth and won't listen. For the millionth time on here, Romans 11 is clear. No where in Romans 11 does it say Jews don't have to come through the cross!! Of course the do!! That's what Romans 11 is talking about!! READ IT!! He is able to graft them back in again, He will forgive their sins, they will come the same way we ALL do!!

Now as to the land promise. READ IT. It is very specific!!! The promise is passed down from generation to generation. The Jews have been punished because of unbelief, and they have lost use of the land down through the ages. But they never lost the deed! God made a promise of specific land, that He said He would gather them to from all over the world. He was very specific about naming it's borders. Why??? Christ already knows the borders. God made an unconditional land promise to the Jews, everlasting!! The call is
irrevocable, Romans says. smh Unreal. A child in Sunday school could understand this.
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God did not give the deed of the kingdom.of God to Benjamin netanyahu.

Benjamin netanyahu is not God's anointed king of Israel.Jesus is.

Benjamin netanyahu claims it is his but he does not hold that deed.

Good grief.I don't think I've seen more worship for the beast.
 
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GaryA said:
Exactly!

Now - think about this for a little while...

Can the promises of God to the Jews be fulfilled before this is carried out to its conclusion?????

No - they cannot.


And, He will - in/during the Millennium!

Believe it!

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Sigh... Israel is the valley of dry bones. 48 began God's prophetic clock. Where we are on His timeline only He knows. But the dry bones are coming together and prophesy is being fulfilled in our lifetime. Yes, we have the tribulation and the rapture to go through, whichever order one believes those are in. But 48 is the beginning of God's time clock.
 
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