The hatred of Jews

[Susanna]

What really disturbs me is that the hatred of Jews is on the rise again. Both here and in Europe.

People I know and who I thought were intelligent and good people are just jumping on the bandwagon supporting Palestine no matter what.

I’m not ashamed to say I support Israel and the Jews, but golly how much trouble that causes me.

Nevertheless, I stand by Israel and the Jews!

 

[Mem]

Some time back, around the time I joined this site, a good friend had recommended I tune into a live broadcast of the teachings of a rabbi (looking back I'm certain that she was his wife incognito!) I loved her because she loved me, or did she love me because I loved her, I'm not sure but, I loved him too, as I loved her. Anyway, I believe that our paths were designed to cross (confirmed by a dream of them that showed it revealed foreknowledge that was later shared). Long story short, the broadcast (which allowed live chat capability) didn't run for long (perhaps because that particular station didn't match their sensibilities as well as they would've liked or perhaps he found it difficult staying focused between keeping with the subject material he'd prepared and following the guests' interactions in real time) but I looked forward to joining in on the conversation with the most witty and thoughtful people I'd ever had to joy of gathering with, and miss them all, host and guests (I believe at least a few were close personal friends) and the environment they generated, terribly. I couldn't even imagine not supporting them.

And, recently, a visiting company manager I met, who also is a delight to know, had shared that he is Palestinian (this event was before the Oct incident and he had already returned to his home account by that time) but he'd also recommended a book by Dale Carnegie who also wrote a Christian leaning book How To Stop Worrying and Start Living and he his stay wasn't so long that I got the opportunity to ask if he had read that also and thereby open up the dialogue concerning the Christian philosophies contained within it. Nonetheless, even with the little I knew of him, I couldn't imagine not supporting him also, unless this means supporting Hamas in its efforts, of course.

I think this is what proves so difficult in distinguishing between, supporting a particular people and supporting a particular effort.

 

[RodB651]

Nevertheless, I stand by Israel and the Jews!

Yes, absolutely!!!

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

What really disturbs me is that the hatred of Jews is on the rise again. Both here and in Europe.

People I know and who I thought were intelligent and good people are just jumping on the bandwagon supporting Palestine no matter what.

I’m not ashamed to say I support Israel and the Jews, but golly how much trouble that causes me.

Nevertheless, I stand by Israel and the Jews!

That's been my stance, but you'll have people jump on you, even here.

 

[DRobinson]

I see where the Democrat leaders have turned on Israel asking for new leadership.
Judgement is now very close for this evil nation.
Best get right with God today.

 

[Stan_the_Man]

That's been my stance, but you'll have people jump on you, even here.

It's spring time so people be gettin jumpy!

 

[Nehemiah6]

I think this is what proves so difficult in distinguishing between, supporting a particular people and supporting a particular effort.

The Palestinians people (general population) have been pawns of their evil leaders as well as all the other Arab and Muslim countries surrounding Israel for decades. And now they are cannon fodder for Hamas (who is actually stealing food from these victims).

But these so-called "pro-Palestinians protests" have two aspects: (1) promoting hatred and threats against Jews (worldwide) and (2) supporting the evil Hamas terrorists. They all could care less about the Palestinian pawns (just like the Democrats could care less about Blacks and Latinos and simply want their votes).

Something else to note is that there may be two reasons why pro-Palestinian protests have taken the world by storm:
(1) the stupid and ignorant Western politicians have ignored the fact that the Muslim world declared Jihad on (a) the West, (b) Christians and (c) Jews. So they simply let the Muslim hordes invade their countries as migrant invaders (even after 9/11). So now every Western country has a huge block of Muslims who hate Westerners and love terrorists.

(2) The second reason is that the Leftists in all the countries (funded by evil billionaires) latch on to every evil trend, whether it is abortion, LGBTQ, gay rights, same sex marriage, migrant invaders, or terrorists. So now the very people who would be exterminated by Hamas (if Hamas invaded America for example) are shouting and marching in support of Hamas. ISIS would simply behead these simpletons.

Israel has absolutely no friends in the world, and whatever the Biden administration is doing is just sham support and interference with Israel. Actions speak louder than words, and Biden has decided to send billions to Iran again, even though Iran is waging war against the USA and Israel. This is both stupid and evil, but that is now the nature of Western leadership -- deceit, denial, and delusion, all rolled into one. Anti-Semitism never really disappeared in the West, and the so-called "liberals" actually hate Jews. But at the same time the stupid Western Jews have always supported the Democrats and railed against Israel and its Jews! Now Schumer (a Jew) would rather see the terrorists continue than Israel exterminate Hamas. So he engages in blatant election interference.

 

[Mem]

The Palestinians people (general population) have been pawns of their evil leaders as well as all the other Arab and Muslim countries surrounding Israel for decades. And now they are cannon fodder for Hamas (who is actually stealing food from these victims).

But these so-called "pro-Palestinians protests" have two aspects: (1) promoting hatred and threats against Jews (worldwide) and (2) supporting the evil Hamas terrorists. They all could care less about the Palestinian pawns (just like the Democrats could care less about Blacks and Latinos and simply want their votes).

Something else to note is that there may be two reasons why pro-Palestinian protests have taken the world by storm:
(1) the stupid and ignorant Western politicians have ignored the fact that the Muslim world declared Jihad on (a) the West, (b) Christians and (c) Jews. So they simply let the Muslim hordes invade their countries as migrant invaders (even after 9/11). So now every Western country has a huge block of Muslims who hate Westerners and love terrorists.

(2) The second reason is that the Leftists in all the countries (funded by evil billionaires) latch on to every evil trend, whether it is abortion, LGBTQ, gay rights, same sex marriage, migrant invaders, or terrorists. So now the very people who would be exterminated by Hamas (if Hamas invaded America for example) are shouting and marching in support of Hamas. ISIS would simply behead these simpletons.

Israel has absolutely no friends in the world, and whatever the Biden administration is doing is just sham support and interference with Israel. Actions speak louder than words, and Biden has decided to send billions to Iran again, even though Iran is waging war against the USA and Israel. This is both stupid and evil, but that is now the nature of Western leadership -- deceit, denial, and delusion, all rolled into one. Anti-Semitism never really disappeared in the West, and the so-called "liberals" actually hate Jews. But at the same time the stupid Western Jews have always supported the Democrats and railed against Israel and its Jews! Now Schumer (a Jew) would rather see the terrorists continue than Israel exterminate Hamas. So he engages in blatant election interference.

This movement is just another tint of "pro-choice" isn't it though? Following the mentality that, "it is our body (land or what have you) so we are rightful in aborting any unwanted "occupiers."

 

[jamessb]

This movement is just another tint of "pro-choice" isn't it though? Following the mentality that, "it is our body (land or what have you) so we are rightful in aborting any unwanted "occupiers."

This is an absurd stretch! To answer your question, no it isn't anything remotely like pro-choice. Unlike a fetus, Hamas is a terrorist group. They attacked innocent Israeli concert-goers and deserve an appropriate response. That said, Israel is way overdoing the response, killing many innocent people.

You should get your thinking straight.

 

[Mem]

This is an absurd stretch! To answer your question, no it isn't anything remotely like pro-choice. Unlike a fetus, Hamas is a terrorist group. They attacked innocent Israeli concert-goers and deserve an appropriate response. That said, Israel is way overdoing the response, killing many innocent people.

You should get your thinking straight.

Get my thinking straight? How did you conclude that I equated Hamas with a fetus?

 

[Nehemiah6]

This movement is just another tint of "pro-choice" isn't it though? Following the mentality that, "it is our body (land or what have you) so we are rightful in aborting any unwanted "occupiers."

This analogy does not really apply. Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis are all focused on THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION of the nation of Israel and the Israelis. Now the USA and Canada have also joined the enemies of Israel.

Pollak: Biden Attack on Netanyahu Causes Worst Crisis in History of U.S.-Israel Relations
Instead of backing Israel fully, Biden is not only criticizing Israel in increasingly strident terms, but demanding it remove its democratic leader.
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-ea...st-crisis-in-history-of-u-s-israel-relations/
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BREAKING: Trudeau cabinet ministers pose for photo with Palestinian terrorist boss
https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_...ose_for_photo_with_palestinian_terrorist_boss
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However India (which is quite unhappy with the Canadian government, supports Israel. Both countries have to deal with Islamist terrorists.
India takes strong pro-Israel stance under Modi in a departure from the past
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/31/india-pro-israel-narendra-modi-bjp-government
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So let's see how America responds to another 9/11. It is not a matter of "if" but "when". And the RINOs are not demanding that Biden either resign or be locked up.

 

[jamessb]

Get my thinking straight? How did you conclude that I equated Hamas with a fetus?

I wrote this (in part): "Unlike a fetus, Hamas is a terrorist group"

And you responded like this...

"This movement is just another tint of "pro-choice" isn't it though? Following the mentality that, "it is our body (land or what have you) so we are rightful in aborting any unwanted "occupiers." "

The reference to "occupiers" clearly means fetuses.

 

[Mem]

I wrote this (in part): "Unlike a fetus, Hamas is a terrorist group"

And you responded like this...

"This movement is just another tint of "pro-choice" isn't it though? Following the mentality that, "it is our body (land or what have you) so we are rightful in aborting any unwanted "occupiers." "

The reference to "occupiers" clearly means fetuses.

Ok, I see now where missed the turn at Albuquerque. Thanks for taking the time and the care, which I often even only think to say thanks and have left it unsaid just to move on to other misunderstandings to get into.
Yes, I "occupiers" clearly means fetuses, but Hamas do not believe they are the "occupiers" and are hostile to those they believe are imposing on their proverbial body (possession). Maybe I have it wrong, I don't know, it's hard to keep up with crazy.

 

[Moses_Young]

What really disturbs me is that the hatred of Jews is on the rise again. Both here and in Europe.

Hatred means different things to different people. The word has been weaponised in recent years to silence the criticism of Communists. The so-called Anti-Defamation League has always been crying wolf about hatred of Jews (many of the acts of hatred being committed by Jews themselves), but few know that the ADL was originally created after the lynching of a Jewish pedophile and murderer, after a corrupt governor overturned his rightful death sentence. If hatred means supporting justice for pedophiles and murderers irrespective of religion, call me a hater. But that's not how God sees hatred.

People I know and who I thought were intelligent and good people are just jumping on the bandwagon supporting Palestine no matter what.

People simply don't like Nazis or homicidal eugenicists (or pedophiles/rapists/murderers, if we're talking the reason for the creation of the ADL). They didn't like it when the Germans did it in World War II, and they don't like the Israelis doing it today. Just because people side with the opposing side to the Nazis doesn't mean these people hate Germans or Israelis.

I’m not ashamed to say I support Israel and the Jews, but golly how much trouble that causes me.

The Israeli government has committed sadistic and evil war crimes. The German Nazis had some good policies also, but as with the current regime in Israel, the evil far, far outweighed the good.

Nevertheless, I stand by Israel and the Jews!

I hope the Nazis and war criminals in Israel get the same justice as the Nazis in Germany did circa 1945.

 

[jamessb]

Ok, I see now where missed the turn at Albuquerque. Thanks for taking the time and the care, which I often even only think to say thanks and have left it unsaid just to move on to other misunderstandings to get into.
Yes, I "occupiers" clearly means fetuses, but Hamas do not believe they are the "occupiers" and are hostile to those they believe are imposing on their proverbial body (possession). Maybe I have it wrong, I don't know, it's hard to keep up with crazy.

What does all this mean in understandable English?

"Ok, I see now where missed the turn at Albuquerque"
"... and have left it unsaid just to move on to other misunderstandings to get into"
"... hostile to those they believe are imposing on their proverbial body (possession)"

 

[Obedience]

You can express your views freely.
But you should love your god with all your heart.
Instead of loving Zionism with all your heart.
You can love them.But only if your heart is all with God.
but What is your reason for supporting them?
Slaughter all the pagans? Or preach the gospel to everyone?Which is the thing that God commands us?Don't you understand?

 

[Obedience]

Hatred means different things to different people. The word has been weaponised in recent years to silence the criticism of Communists. The so-called Anti-Defamation League has always been crying wolf about hatred of Jews (many of the acts of hatred being committed by Jews themselves), but few know that the ADL was originally created after the lynching of a Jewish pedophile and murderer, after a corrupt governor overturned his rightful death sentence. If hatred means supporting justice for pedophiles and murderers irrespective of religion, call me a hater. But that's not how God sees hatred.

People simply don't like Nazis or homicidal eugenicists (or pedophiles/rapists/murderers, if we're talking the reason for the creation of the ADL). They didn't like it when the Germans did it in World War II, and they don't like the Israelis doing it today. Just because people side with the opposing side to the Nazis doesn't mean these people hate Germans or Israelis.

The Israeli government has committed sadistic and evil war crimes. The German Nazis had some good policies also, but as with the current regime in Israel, the evil far, far outweighed the good.

I hope the Nazis and war criminals in Israel get the same justice as the Nazis in Germany did circa 1945.

I think many people think that the views embraced by non-Christians do not come from God's justice.I just think that I have observed many situations.Many people who are not Christians can tell right from wrong.Many people who claim to be Christians can't correctly distinguish right from wrong.
I agree with you.In my opinion, let the war solve the war.Soldiers kill each other,This is not a problem that can be solved by the faith.However, God's justice,When Jesus met the Jewish soldiers/Roman soldiers,Jesus chose to be crucified.Instead of Jesus choosing to become a soldier to fight a war.

Revelation. 13:10
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Y
Instead of loving Zionism with all your heart.

That's a backhanded way that people can be antisemitic, calling people Zionists because they support the Jews. It's the same as calling someone a "n$gger lover" back in the day. It's racist.

 

[Obedience]

That's a backhanded way that people can be antisemitic, calling people Zionists because they support the Jews. It's the same as calling someone a "n$gger lover" back in the day. It's racist.

Should we call them heavenly Restore nationalism?
They are building hell instead of kingdom of heaven.
They want to embrace peace.But they went to a Muslim church and beat people up.
If they go to a Muslim church to preach the gospel, I will support them with my hands and feet.
If your so-called racismAren't they racist?

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Hatred means different things to different people. The word has been weaponised in recent years to silence the criticism of Communists. The so-called Anti-Defamation League has always been crying wolf about hatred of Jews (many of the acts of hatred being committed by Jews themselves), but few know that the ADL was originally created after the lynching of a Jewish pedophile and murderer, after a corrupt governor overturned his rightful death sentence. If hatred means supporting justice for pedophiles and murderers irrespective of religion, call me a hater. But that's not how God sees hatred.

Even if what you're sharing were facts, what has that to do with the price of tea in China.

The Israeli government has committed sadistic and evil war crimes.

So why aren't they being charged with them? Why hasn't Joe said it? He wants an out badly so why doesn't he say it?!

I hope the Nazis and war criminals in Israel get the same justice as the Nazis in Germany did circa 1945.

You're saying Netanyahu is a Nazi???!!