I was thinking about that yesterday, about how it gets complicated with all the pedantry and differing views and even things that are not Biblical being thrown into the mix, and people contradicting themselves, also... how it misses the simplicity that is in Christ. People saying things like, if you cannot read the Greek, you cannot understand the gospel. Man, that is just so wrong! Okay, back to the point: so you are saying that once we are made alive, the deal is sealed even though Scripture says we are sealed upon belief? I press into this point because it was sixteen years in between when some would say I was made alive and when I came to believe. This particular topic does interest me perhaps more than others, and I know it is not the same for everyone. Then again, some say spiritual things do not interest people who are not born again, and I disagree with that, also. I think lots of people are interested in spiritual things and pursue spiritual truths before coming to believe more fully in God and turning their will and their life over to Him. I was one of them...
there is Spiritual warfare, that many do not see, being of the flesh nature still, trying to make it here on earth physically. Glad you see this truth now and are learning too, as I am daily learning and forgetting and learning from each and all my mistakes. Then I have my resetter, where I have a thorn in my side as Pul talked of too in 2 Cor 12:7-10, I see that now, I am perplexed, yet see it yet do not, yet do not ever, wanting not or desiring not to ever take grace ever for granted ever.
As it feels, I do, yet no I am not, as God knows truth over error.
So I got a taste, to see to not ever, ever sin again ever. I got proud and out of this world over others, as if better, no thank you now after seeing this below, his me deeply
Luke 18:9-14
King James Version
9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.