Death curses the law

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Burn1986

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Before Adam and eve fell God gave Adam and eve two laws

Don't eat from the tree of good.and evil

Man shall not live alone

Then men digested evil

And evil death entered in them and started to curse the law

Sounds like common sense to me.
God just gave them one law right? Don’t eat from the tree of good and evil. That was it.
 
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God just gave them one law right? Don’t eat from the tree of good and evil. That was it.
Hi friend it will hopefully sink in soon

But here's the reason for the thread

Right up to the ending of genesis 3

God had created man not outside of time.

In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.

Well it proves calvinism wrong

but here the other thing God first created man with no suitable helper

After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper ❤️


because man was first created not outside of time, God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone.

This is why he hates divorce to

But after Genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it to help you in a fallen state.



One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.

Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
 

Dino246

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This is kind of off topic, but it’s a good explanation of why dinosaurs (if they ever existed) couldn't have died before Adam, since death didn’t enter the world yet.
They certainly did... and possibly still do. I agree with the rest. :)
 

Dino246

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God had created man not outside of time.

In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.
There is no evidence in Scripture to support that idea.

Well it proves calvinism wrong
Even if your claim were valid (it isn't), that wouldn't disprove Calvinism.

but here the other thing God first created man with no suitable helper

After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper ❤️
That's not a "law".

because man was first created not outside of time, God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone.
Your low view of God is a problem.

Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
Simply wrong.
 
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There is no evidence in Scripture to support that idea.


Even if your claim were valid (it isn't), that wouldn't disprove Calvinism.


That's not a "law".


Your low view of God is a problem.


Simply wrong.
is the reason you say it's wrong because your a Calvinist
 
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Hi friend it will hopefully sink in soon

But here's the reason for the thread

Right up to the ending of genesis 3

God had created man not outside of time.

In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.

Well it proves calvinism wrong

but here the other thing God first created man with no suitable helper

After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper ❤️


because man was first created not outside of time, God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone.

This is why he hates divorce to

But after Genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it to help you in a fallen state.



One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.

Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
would. anyone else like to say why this proves Calvinism wrong.


Does anyone know this song 😊

Get theese muts away from me, 😊

 

Burn1986

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what I know is there is life beyond the thunder dome

This is what the thunder says 😊

Life beyond the thunder dome

So you quoting Chick Hicks or Lightening McQueen?

It’s just the nature of this goofy thread anyway
 
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So you quoting Chick Hicks or Lightening McQueen?
Tina turner sang it but the thunder released released the lyrics.

Listen to the lyrics, I mean it's bliss.

But anyhow God does not like divorce

So he made it law that man shall not live alone


Which means through life and death he doesn't abandon you.

As God is a God of the living.

Now you may say well what about the final death.

Well what I say is what's the point in discussing that as you would be along time dead.


Any how check out the thunder dome lyrics its one of my favourite young pilgrims song.

I was wondering if you was a poet


 

Burn1986

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Tina turner sang it but the thunder released released the lyrics.

Listen to the lyrics, I mean it's bliss.

But anyhow God does not like divorce

So he made it law that man shall not live alone


Which means through life and death he doesn't abandon you.

As God is a God of the living.

Now you may say well what about the final death.

Well what I say is what's the point in discussing that as you would be along time dead.


Any how check out the thunder dome lyrics its one of my favourite young pilgrims song.

I was wondering if you was a poet


Ha, well at least someone around here has a sense of humor. I’m just not crazy about Tina Turner. She was kind of pretty but she’s a little older than me.
 

Dino246

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How could they live and die before death entered the world with Adam?
You may have misread my post.

Here are your words: "This is kind of off topic, but it’s a good explanation of why dinosaurs (if they ever existed) couldn't have died before Adam, since death didn’t enter the world yet."

Dinosaurs certainly did exist, but didn't die before Adam.
 

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One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.

Well he never knew that up until after genesis 3 when he booted you out of the garden of eden
God is never watching to see what people will do because He doesn't know, or asking questions because He doesn't know the answer.

He asks because He's teaching men and angels to pay attention to the answer, and He watches because He delights in us.


Hebrews 4:13​
there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
 

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Your low view of God is a problem.
yes, i agree

it is far wiser to be wrong by giving God too much praise and glory, than to be wrong by not giving Him enough.

as a rule, always take the highest view of Him possible
 
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Hi people
you may not have not noticed but I'm being deliberately targeted by Calvinists, who with there doctrine of total depravity have decided that I don't serve God so now there stripping me of God as they do all other people


So I've now re wrote my will again that I will take to my death bed.

Some of you may never of understood so here it is again



Heres a letter to my will, that i will leave in my will, which still shows God as all knowing.

And the question I will leave in my will is

Why Did God make it law that man shall not live alone.

The other thing I will state in my will is that Calvinism will say this is not true, because they say it doesn't line up with an ism, isms are bad thing.

Then in my will, will be this question.

Can you see how this proves calvinism wrong.

friends it will hopefully sink in soon 😊

But here's the reason

Right up to the ending of genesis 3

God had created man not outside of time.

In other words he chose not to know what man would do next before they did something, before the fall of man, because they where living in innocence in his garden, which can be shown in many ways in genesis 3 also.


Well this proves calvinism wrong

but here the other thing,

God first created man with no suitable helper.

After he saw the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam he then made it a law that man should not live alone without a suitable helper and gave him a wife. ❤️


because man was first created not outside of time before the fall , God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone by giving him a suitable helper

This is why he hates divorce to.

He hates divorce so much he considers that man living alone is not Good.

But after the fall particular genesis 3 God put man outside of times so he could know what you where going to do before you do it.

Why well to help you in a fallen state, which means you are never truly totally depraved, as God honours marriage in life and death.



One scripture says, when you pray God's knows what you need before you ask him.

Well he never knew that before the fall, because God realised man did not have a suitable helper at first.

If you turn to bible you will read God found that the animals where not suitable helpers for Adam.

So he gave man a helper (a wife) and it made it law that man shall not live alone.

To further sanction this God made it law that marriage must be honoured and told us in no uncertain terms that he hates divorce.

So in death God the father is still with you untill he hands you to the son.


Oh one last note

God is still all knowing.

Because hes God and he cares about you in a fallen state, he has made you live outside of time, so that he knows what you will do before you do it.

As God says this

When you pray God knows what you need before you know it.

Well this was after the fall he said this.

Because before th fall in the garden of innocent ie eden, he never knew that then animals would be a suitable helper untill it was tried.

Then when he knew God then said it's not good that man shall live alone so he made it a law that man shall not live alone and have man a wife.


One last note

God is still all knowing

God is still all knowing


God is still all knowing

God is still all knowing.

Oh lastly one more thing God is still all knowing 😊



Thanks for wanting to understand people
 

posthuman

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because man was first created not outside of time before the fall , God never knew man would not find the animals suitable helpers, so he the made it law that man shall not live alone by giving him a suitable helper
what makes you think that because God made man inside of time, that God is ignorant of what man will do or think in time?

He also made all the other animals, and He also made time.

and again, tho Dino has already said so, it is not law that man must not live alone. Christ Himself said it is better for people to be eunuchs, but it is not given to everyone to do so - - so you have God contradicting Himself with your position that He made it law for man to have a wife, and the text does not call it a law at all: He said it isn't good for us to be alone, that's all - and for us who believe Him, He is our Husband: we aren't alone at all, whether we have earthly spouses or not.