Predestination is misunderstood...
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Having fallen man to die is the wisdom of God..
For Jesus would still be on the Cross today if man NEVER DIED .
For man's sins would not be finite in number, but never ending.
The fact that we die in our fallen state is a good thing.
That way, God could pay for our sins, and be done with it!
In Christ.....
Thank you..... 
.....how nice of you.
.....how nice of you.
I found him evil. And I won't be listening to his rubbish anymore.
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Mat 13:10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
Mat 13:11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Luk 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.
Joh 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."
Joh 6:66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.
Joh 10:26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Joh 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
Joh 17:9 "I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
To deny the doctrine of God's sovereign election means you also deny the triune work of the Godhead and therefore the Trinity.
Mat 13:11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Luk 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.
Joh 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."
Joh 6:66 From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.
Joh 10:26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you.
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
Joh 10:28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.
Joh 17:9 "I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours.
To deny the doctrine of God's sovereign election means you also deny the triune work of the Godhead and therefore the Trinity.
I wasn't saying it so not sure why you are but ....
1Tim.2:1-4
Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Hard to see how it is unbiblical to say God wants all men to be saved when the scripture says that very thing.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that those who are not saved have never been given the opportunity to respond to God.
1Tim.2:1-4
Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Hard to see how it is unbiblical to say God wants all men to be saved when the scripture says that very thing.
You seem to be under the mistaken impression that those who are not saved have never been given the opportunity to respond to God.
You obviously do not yet understand what the term reprobate means.
If God sincerely desires to save every person then why does Christ rejoice at the knowledge that the truth is hidden from some and even thanks His Father for doing so???
Luk 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in the Spirit and said, "I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and revealed them to babes. Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight.
I would recommend you read the article below to avoid any further confusion on your part.
Does God Really Desire to Save the Reprobate?
The demons believe that Christ exists but they are not saved.
True saving faith is a gift of grace from God and not something man creates in which he can boast.
Please read your Bible!
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
God has chosen to use the foolishness of Gospel preaching to grant faith to His people.
1Co 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Psa_119:49 Remember the word to Your servant, Upon which You have caused me to hope.
Php 1:29 For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
True saving faith is a gift of grace from God and not something man creates in which he can boast.
Please read your Bible!
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
God has chosen to use the foolishness of Gospel preaching to grant faith to His people.
1Co 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Psa_119:49 Remember the word to Your servant, Upon which You have caused me to hope.
Php 1:29 For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,
The Father chooses those whom he tests with drawing all men....
Those who do not resist God drawing them He then chooses to give to the Son.
Stephen said some men are always resisting the Holy Spirit!
“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised.
You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! Acts 7:51
Yes!
The drawing of God can be resisted!
There it is! Acts 7:51.
In Christ...
Those who do not resist God drawing them He then chooses to give to the Son.
Stephen said some men are always resisting the Holy Spirit!
“You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised.
You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit! Acts 7:51
Yes!
The drawing of God can be resisted!
There it is! Acts 7:51.
In Christ...
Reprobates end up becoming a reprobate as the result of God having initiated His drawing to them.
God does not in turn then try to save the reprobate...
For their state of reprobation was punishment from God for their rejecting His drawing them.
Here is one example of what I speak of...
God does not in turn then try to save the reprobate...
For their state of reprobation was punishment from God for their rejecting His drawing them.
Here is one example of what I speak of...
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth
by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain
to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the
creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power
and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood
from what has been made, so that they are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God
nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and
their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to
be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human
being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their
hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies
with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for
a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than
the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts.
Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for
unnatural ones.
Romans 1:18-25
it wasn't just what he said about the wages. it was many other things.
Anyone with half a brain can work out Adam did not sin in arrogance.
Not only that he started his sermon with the intimidating hell speech towards people who haven't even started to believe in Christ yet.
Then his intimidating remarks of human emotions also got intimidating.
Then he went on as if he knew it all.
There was plenty other remarks he said which was questionable.
If.you can't see an ignorant person when you see one God help you.
Anyone with half a brain can work out Adam did not sin in arrogance.
Not only that he started his sermon with the intimidating hell speech towards people who haven't even started to believe in Christ yet.
Then his intimidating remarks of human emotions also got intimidating.
Then he went on as if he knew it all.
There was plenty other remarks he said which was questionable.
If.you can't see an ignorant person when you see one God help you.