Why ask me for the 10th time? If you can't get anyone but your own kind to believe your baloney why keep trying?
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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I don't do vids. Answer my question. You're denying that your granddad came into this world in a state of spiritual death. Then that can only mean he came into this world innately possessing Eternal Life. There is no third option. And if he came into this world already alive unto God, then why did he need saving?
You are nobody to me. I only do what the Spirit leads me to do.
You are asking questions about something I never said. Ask the person who said whatever you think I did.
Nope. I agree totally. The Gospel is necessary unto salvation. I'm not denying that. What I'm asking is how do the deaf have their ears open to HEAR the Gospel? The gospel alone is obviously not efficacious since most in the world reject its truth. So...what made your granddad different from those who reject the truth? Was he smarter than most.? More spiritual than most? Wiser than most?
You said essentially your granddad was never in a state of spiritual death. You are now denying this?
Where in the Bible does is say anyone other than the Jews cannot hear?
Where does it say the Gentiles cannot hear?
Paul plainly said the JEWS cannot hear.
Where did he say the Gentiles cannot hear?
NOWHERE did he say that, NOWHERE!
You don't count too swell either. That was the first time I asked you about that particular term.
My Grandfather told us the incident that took place on Azusa Street made him go find a New Testament and begin reading it to see if it aligned. During this time he met GT Haywood who explained and answered his questions and presented the Gospel of Christ to him.
You truly are ignorant of the scriptures, aren't you? And you love to project that ignorance unto others too.
Tell me, please, what part of this passage you don't understand. Verse 11, perhaps? I'll be happy to explain to explain it to you.
Rom 3:9-18
9 What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10 As it is written:
"There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
13 "Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know."
18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
NIV
So...how do the Jews differ from the Gentiles again?
Like I said, only the JEWS are mentioned to not be able to hear. Your scripture nowhere addresses the Gentiles no matter how much you try to spin it.
Show me in the Bible where the GENTILES cannot hear, the GENTILES?
The Gentiles and Jews ""are not the same"" until they get saved. So before salvation they are still JEW and Gentile.
Show me in the Bible where the GENTILES cannot hear, the GENTILES?
That's nice but it doesn't answer my question. When your granddad met this preacher, was he (your granddad) in a state of spiritual death or spiritual life? You need not give me more external details. My question deals with an eternal, invisible, spiritual detail.
I take it that by your rage and shouting that you don't understand what v. 11 is saying, do you? What do you think that verse is saying?
P.S. Aren't Jews and Gentiles of the human race?
The Gentiles and Jews ""are not the same"" until they get saved.
So before salvation they are still JEW and Gentile.
Show me in the Bible where the GENTILES cannot hear, the GENTILES?
The Gentiles and Jews ""are not the same"" until they get saved.
So before salvation they are still JEW and Gentile.
Show me in the Bible where the GENTILES cannot hear, the GENTILES?
That's not what I asked. What I asked very specifically is what was your grandfather's spiritual state during his time of seeking the truth? Was he in a state of spiritual life or spiritual death? Very simple question.
Isn't the fact he did not accept Jesus yet tell us where he was at?