Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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Everlasting-Grace said:
But jews can hear and see also. you said yourself you can..

That passage is about the time God will send them prophets and force them to continue in unbelief, because they are forced to keep believing the lie.
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I spend my time with the JEWS. Don't tell me what I see every day that you do not!

That verse speaks more truth today than at any time in the history when Jesus came.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
I spend my time with the JEWS. Don't tell me what I see every day that you do not!

That verse speaks more truth today than at any time in the history when Jesus came.
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lol

dude, back off, don;t tell me what I can and cant see

I spend time every day with jews also. Every one I know is my brother and sister in christ.
 
Everlasting-Grace said:
This is not water baptism here. This is holy spirit baptism. God literally baptizesd you into his death, and buried you in that same baptism. no water is involved.


So your admitting I am right, and you believe water baptism is required. Yet you yelled at me for saying you never said that.

Give me a break.

PS Mark 16 is questionable.
1. it is not in the oldest manuscripts
2. It does not make sense (if a child of God eats poison or gets bit, they will die.. there is no guarantee they will nto die)
3. At the very least. It does not say water, if could be spirit baptism, which is automatic.

finally. Read the book of John, Jesus never mentions baptism, he always mentioned believe only

as for acts. again, study the passage, it does nto say what you think it says
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I don't admit that you are right about anything.

You can believe as you want.

But baptized in the Holy Spirit is LIFE, baptism in water is DEATH!

You just don't want to believe the Word of God!
 
Rufus said:
Did that Pentecostal preacher, then, raise your grandfather from his spiritual tomb?
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No, unlike YOU, he knew the Word of God and being led by the Spirit was able to show my Grandfather where it was my Grandfather lacked understanding.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
No, unlike YOU, he knew the Word of God and being led by the Spirit was able to show my Grandfather where it was my Grandfather lacked understanding.
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Interesting...so if your granddaddy was never in a state of spiritual death, then that means he must have come into this world spiritually alive unto God. Got chapter and verse for that?
 
Rufus said:
Interesting...so if your granddaddy was never in a state of spiritual death, then that means he must have come into this world spiritually alive unto God. Got chapter and verse for that?
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I already said the man presented the Gospel of Christ to him. Here was that man, AoG GT Haywood (1910)

 
Rufus said:
The gospel alone is not enough. Don't you know that one must be born of the Spirit and the Word? And, yet, you insult me by telling me I don't know the Word of God? :rolleyes:
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Now you deny what Paul said

17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.
 
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