YES THEY ARE until they discover the truth. My grandfather discovered from a Black Pentecostal Preacher who showed him in Scripture.
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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lol.. I quoted your post and highlighted the word baptism.
Thats on you not me, If you can not talk in a way I understand or at the least correct someone when they misunderstand you. Don;t blame the other person.
that did nto answer my question.
How does one harden their heart. or how does God help your heart to be hardened? do you know what the word harden means?
NO, you took my response and DID NOT read the question I was answering. You just took my response and made an assumption.
God hardened their hearts.
But when that man showed and explained and spoke the Gospel, my Grandfather understood.
No,
I took what you said in the order you said, and interpreted what you said.
The process is this
repent
be baptised
recieve the Holy Spirit
You need to take accountability my friend, stop attacking me because you were not clear in what you said
So you admit you have to be baptised in water to be saved?
You just spent the last hour yelling at me that you never said that!
8 as it is written,
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that would not see
and ears that would not hear,
down to this very day.”
Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
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Right and that was what the slave market represented. Jesus paid our wage to free us from the slave market
Paul wrote this about water baptism: (Paul is saying water baptism is like being buried in death like Jesus was)
3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life
Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
Peter is saying what Jesus said:
38 And Peter said to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I ADMIT I AM SAYING WHAT THE JESUS, PETER, AND PAUL SAID IN THE BIBLE!
3 Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?
4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life
Jesus said these things to His Disciples
1. 47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
2. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
3. 38 Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
39 Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive
So Jesus said to His Disciples 1. Repent, 2. be Baptized, 3. receive the Holy Spirit
Peter is saying what Jesus said:
38 And Peter said to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
I ADMIT I AM SAYING WHAT THE JESUS, PETER, AND PAUL SAID IN THE BIBLE!
This Verse shows the JEWS are in this ^ condition.
But the GENTILES are able to see and hear the Gospel of Christ!
Yes, this is how it happens.
To harden ones heart is to STRENGTHEN THEM. God hardens people hearts by putting truth in their faces. the more they deny the truth and replace it with their lie. the more hard or powerful their heart (will) comes to reject the truth,
Notice with Pharoah, he started small. and each time he got more and more powerful plague,, so that when he killed the first born.. Pharoah still rejected the truth, and went after the people he let go and sent his army to their deaths.
A person can harden their heart so much they will never see the truth.
an example would be a person who believes 2 + 2 = 5. The more you put an their face or show them 2 + 2 = 4, and the more they continue to deny it. the more hardened they are to the truth.
But jews can hear and see also. you said yourself you can..
That passage is about the time God will send them prophets and force them to continue in unbelief, because they are forced to keep believing the lie.
I have no problem with your explanation.
I am just saying Paul said to this very day the JEWS are blind and deaf to the Gospel.
Thank God the Gentiles can see and hear!
This is not water baptism here. This is holy spirit baptism. God literally baptizesd you into his death, and buried you in that same baptism. no water is involved.
So your admitting I am right, and you believe water baptism is required. Yet you yelled at me for saying you never said that.
Give me a break.
PS Mark 16 is questionable.
1. it is not in the oldest manuscripts
2. It does not make sense (if a child of God eats poison or gets bit, they will die.. there is no guarantee they will nto die)
3. At the very least. It does not say water, if could be spirit baptism, which is automatic.
finally. Read the book of John, Jesus never mentions baptism, he always mentioned believe only
as for acts. again, study the passage, it does nto say what you think it says