Predestination is misunderstood...

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Dino246

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Are you bored or something, you keeps judging people by your own wrong doings,

Time and time again You've judged me by exactly the way your behaving.

What's going on with you, it's like your seeing your own fault and blaming other people for it.

Your also finding all theese ways to find fault and mistakes, where by each time you escalate an argument out of thin air.

It's like your at war with your own mistakes and conscience and trying to find fault in others to make your own mistakes seem less of a mistake.

What's going on with you
I guess you were predestined to avoid the thread topic.
 

Genez

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The dreams I'm talking about can be anything I do and even say on a distant future event,

It can be anything, such as meeting a person I don't know. Going some where I've Never been having an accident somebody dying.

Every single detail from the words said to the people met, to the type of building or the type of surroundings, have all happend in my dream, and then happened in real life in a distance event , the same as in my dream

And it hasn't just happen once but thousands of times.

Even something like watching a cinema movie like king Kong, or the twin tower getting bombed. All seen in my dream before they happened in every detail, as it happens in my dream, it comes true always within one year.

I Get premonition to before things happend, I see the event flash before my eyes just before there about to happen

On many occasions it's saved my life
You are no different... I only mentioned one as an example.

One thing I will say is this.....

If the ability is from God?
You should eventually be led to finding some excellent Bible teaching.
Not the erratic thinking you now have been offering here.

If you will remain humble before God is the key.
If it makes you conceited? You might go the way of Balaam.

If the ability is not from God?...
You will be going the way of Edgar Cayce, or a psychic.

Both God and the demonic realm can have some humans enter into that realm.
Both with different results ultimately.

In Christ ...............
 

Genez

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Are you bored or something, you keeps judging people by your own wrong doings,

Time and time again You've judged me by exactly the way your behaving.
If you keep presenting yourself as the superior one to another you will beg to have such criticism raised up against you.
Having psychic ability does not make one innately superior if its the wrong spirit at the reigns.
Having God showing you such things will eventually crush you into humility if God has his way with you.
 
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If you keep presenting yourself as the superior one you will beg to have such criticism raised up against you.
If you keep butting nto other peoples disagreements.you will present yourself as a medler,. And it's quite foolish to interfere in another person disagreement.

Honesty your like a light switch of and and on
,one minute your putting me in the light the next your putting me in the dark.

I've just about had enough of your quarrelsome behaviour and Dino

Where do you people come from.


I'm not the one who is Troublesome.or quarrelling,

I've just spent more time being polite to you, and now your just blowing hot and cold again.
 
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You are no different... I only mentioned one as an example.

One thing I will say is this.....

If the ability is from God?
You should eventually be led to finding some excellent Bible teaching.
Not the erratic thinking you now have been offering here.

If you will remain humble before God is the key.
If it makes you conceited? You might go the way of Balaam.

If the ability is not from God?...
You will be going the way of Edgar Cayce, or a psychic.

Both God and the demonic realm can have some humans enter into that realm.
Both with different results ultimately.

In Christ ...............
Did I say I was different.

What are you talking about.

I was sharing my experience


What are you trying to prove now, that I'm making out I'm better than other people

This imagination of yours is very troublesome.

It's like your trying to score browny points.

Honestly I'm just about through with you,.I've had as much as I can take of you
 

Dino246

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I would suggest that those who don't care for the contributions of certain others cease interacting with them.
 
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I would suggest that those who don't care for the contributions of certain others cease interacting with them.
when i cease doing anything with anyone, I generally don't say a single word or let them know my intentions.

Your very close to this stage.
 

Genez

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Did I say I was different.

What are you talking about.

I was sharing my experience


What are you trying to prove now, that I'm making out I'm better than other people

This imagination of yours is very troublesome.

It's like your trying to score browny points.

Honestly I'm just about through with you,.I've had as much as I can take of you
You are being way too subjective and are taking things way too personally...

You need something from God that you have not gotten yet.
 

Genez

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Did I say I was different.

What are you talking about.

I was sharing my experience


What are you trying to prove now, that I'm making out I'm better than other people

This imagination of yours is very troublesome.

It's like your trying to score browny points.

Honestly I'm just about through with you,.I've had as much as I can take of you
I see what happened.... I misunderstood something and took what you said out of context....

Here is what you said that made me think you were saying what I shared was "only once."

Every single detail from the words said to the people met, to the type of building
or the type of surroundings, have all happend in my dream, and then happened in
real life in a distance event , the same as in my dream

And it hasn't just happen once but thousands of times.


Sorry... I truly misunderstood.

I thought for some reason you were comparing my one experience that I shared to you having many....


grace and peace .................
 
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So he happened once, and you happened thousands of times.
So if has time travel,You haven't changed yourself.Ever since you studied the Bible,You missed thousands of opportunities to change yourself.Change your life.
So this is how I understand this kind of thing.
 

PaulThomson

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ok your opinion is they did nothing, ok well lets wait to see what somebody else thinks after they've read it


The scripture I'm asking you to read is genesis 3
I think perhaps it's something you're embarassed to put your name to alone. You maybe want to find someone else to confirm your idea before coming out with it yourself. If I were to guess, it's probably something Freudian.
 

brightfame52

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We were predestined to be the bride of Christ when we believed.

So, out of all souls that God knew would believe?
He predestined them to be born during the church age.

Moses was to be the age of Israel.
So God predestined him to be born during that time.

Hence.... "Predestination."

Not predestined to believe.
But, predestined as to when we would be born to discover and display our belief that God knew we would.
Known to God before we were born, that we would believe.

In doing so? We being chosen in Christ? God has chosen a Bride for His Son!

In the Resurrection we will be conformed to His image! God chose it to be that way...

grace and peace!

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Sounds like error to me
 

John146

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I have the right order
I have the right order even if it goes against the clear reading of scripture. I'd rather follow the RCC John Calvin than scripture. God it.

Can you at least post scripture stating the right order? thanks
 
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I see what happened.... I misunderstood something and took what you said out of context....

Here is what you said that made me think you were saying what I shared was "only once."

Every single detail from the words said to the people met, to the type of building
or the type of surroundings, have all happend in my dream, and then happened in
real life in a distance event , the same as in my dream
And it hasn't just happen once but thousands of times.


Sorry... I truly misunderstood.

I thought for some reason you were comparing my one experience that I shared to you having many....


grace and peace .................
You've assumed a lot like this.

I'm wait for this, for you many times.

I'm accept this apology but this is not good.

This time I'm asking this question now.

If where living in a past time behind God, then How are we.


Forget about free will

Let's just address being free.

How are we free.
 

brightfame52

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That Faith in Christ is a blessing of Gods predestination is seen when we consider this blessed promise Rom 1:16-17

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

This is a promise that the Just shall live by Faith This statement is in future indicative , indicating that something will certainly occur in the future. Now what makes it certain ? Gods predestination. Remember some had been predestinated to the adoption of children/sons which is manifested by Faith in Christ !