You have that exactly backwards. In truth,
Jesus gave His life for us because everyone deserves to go to hell.
By believing in His atoning death and resurrection, we partake of His righteousness which means we are no longer hellbound.
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Jesus gave His life for us because everyone deserves to go to hell.
By believing in His atoning death and resurrection, we partake of His righteousness which means we are no longer hellbound.
Show me where I am wrong for the Scriptures were given for this purpose (2 Tim 3:16-17).
That is incorrect. Repenting is merely changing your mind and your behaviour to match. You are forgiven when you believe in Jesus' atoning death and resurrection. You must repent AND believe.
And repentance unto salvation is the Godly sorrow described in 2 Corinthians 7:10.
People need Christ because God is a perfect judge who sees everything and hates evil which is most clearly observed in His wrath being propitiated upon Christ to satisfy divine justice in order to grant righteous mercy to His people.
I'm saying it comes from God and is the only repentance that results in salvation.
No, I don't. Faith comes from the word. The natural man cannot exercise faith because if he is still in his natural state, he is not regenerated and if he is not regenerated, he has not believed the Gospel and if he has not believed the Gospel, he is not saved.
You think you understand what I am saying, but you don't.
Don't use big words you don't understand. You still aren't making the connection. If you're going to reduce the gospel to a sentence or two, make sure that you are telling all the important parts.
Repentance and faith are the fruits of salvation and not the conditions unto salvation lest they become a work.
That post doesn't suggest that he does. Your responses to him and to me suggest that you're the one with the problem.
That's just Calvinism at its most extreme. Your quote-meme doesn't even support your claim.
That is a definition of the gospel (and certainly not the only one), not a presentation of the gospel.
I take it you do not read your Bible for the word propitiation is found in it four times and means a sacrifice which satisfies and quenches wrath as a mercy seat.
Rom_3:25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed,
Heb_2:17 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.
1Jn_2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
1Jn_4:10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.