DON'T take the Mark!

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I believe there are a lot of people who are expecting things to take place that doesn't.Some might believe they will be taken away before the man of sin is revealed.Others believe there will be a one world government.All looking for things that are not going to happen.They won't even realize it's the time of the end.


Mathew 24:48-51
But suppose that servant is wicked and says in his heart, ‘My master will be away a long time.’
And he begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards.
the master of that servant will come in a day in which he does not expect, and in an hour which he is unaware
Then he will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.





He will be assigned a place with the hypocrites.Something tells me he wasnt a Hypocrite but he sure ends up with them in the end.Why would you suppose he didn't know it was the time of the end?
 
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You go tell that to Moloch.
Benjamin netanyahu doesn't care.

The semetic word Moloch means king.Israrl worships The shrine of Moloch and therefore wil be cast out of the promised land on the day of the Lord when Christ comes.


Amos 5
25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?
26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.
27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, whose name is The God of hosts.



God gave Israel a King .(Christ)
The majority of the people in Israel prefer Moloch(the Beast). And they also worship his star as seen on his flag.
 

oyster67

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DON'T take the Mark!


Best to avoid the whole nasty scene in the first place.

Many of us plan on being raptured up and attending a wedding at this time.
 
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Probably the one you got.
Since you believe the COVID vaccination is the mark of the beast,have you not been able to buy or sell anything since the Trump administration first started administering it?

Revelation 13
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
 
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#55
It most certainly does

That's nothing but speculation. Nobody knows for sure till all this happens in real time.
Besides, after the rapture people will be getting born again and will go thru the great tribulation

We do know the rapture will not happen until after the anti-christ is made known to the world according to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3



You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Someone having a different opinion that you does not mean they are laying about you.



None of them had aborted cells.

Some of the drug companies did admit they were using material from aborted babies and pledged to stop the practice but nobody can verify if they stopped or not.,
 

Chester

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The church will be absent from the earth when the mark of the beast goes into effect (Revelation 13). You will not find the words "church" or "churches" from Revelation 4 to Revelation 18. Thus the issue is moot. The Tribulation Saints will refuse to take the mark, and will be beheaded (Rev 20).
I am not sure there is proof there will not be "believers" who will take the mark. Of course, as soon as they take it, they have identified their side and are eternally lost.
 
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That's nothing but speculation. Nobody knows for sure till all this happens in real time.
Besides, after the rapture people will be getting born again and will go thru the great tribulation

We do know the rapture will not happen until after the anti-christ is made known to the world according to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3






Someone having a different opinion that you does not mean they are laying about you.






Some of the drug companies did admit they were using material from aborted babies and pledged to stop the practice but nobody can verify if they stopped or not.,
According to Thessalonians,the man of sin is destroyed at Christs coming so he has already done everything scripture says he would do before the rapture.

In fact,you can read about his end in Daniel 11:45 and the rapture/resurection takes place in daniel.12:1-2.


Danie11;45-12:2
And he shall pitch the tabernacle of his palace between the seas in the holy mountain of beauty: but he shall come to his portion, and there is none to deliver him.
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame.




The man of sin is revealed to people who are really paying attention in daniel.11:21 but he does not provide Israel with his armed forces untill Daniel 11:31. That is when the saints in Israel are persecuted and killed for their testimony of Jesus and who do not worship the beast ,its image nor recieve Its mark.



Most people dont pay any attention to daniels prophecy concerning the man of sin or his predecessors because they have been misled into believing the prophecy was fulfilled thousands of years ago.
A man named Jason misled alot of people.
 
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According to Thessalonians,the man of sin is destroyed at Christs coming so he has already done everything scripture says he would do before the rapture.

You are confused as the rapture and the second return of Jesus is two separate events.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
 
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Now if you look closely at Daniel 12:1,you will see that Jesus referenced daniel 12:1 while speaking of the abomination spoken of by Daniel .Jesus is informing us that the abomination of desolation is placed at this time.

Compare the highlighted words.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

Mathew 24
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
 
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You are confused as the rapture and the second return of Jesus is two separate events.

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition
No they are not.ZPail only speaks of one event in 2 Thes.Our Lords Coming.

The man of sin comes to his end at Christs coming when we are gathered together to christ just as Paul said.


The falling away takes place in daniel 11:32

daniel 11:32
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.


The rapture of them who names are written in the lambs book.of Life takes place on Daniel 12:1.


Daniel 12:1
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.


"""at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book"""


The persecution of the saints In Israel begins 3.3 years before the rapture.While christians on these forums are still arguing when the rapture will take place,these saints in Israel will die while the test of Israel.ate receiving theMark.

Daniel 11:33
Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.
During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.
And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

Revelation 14:13
Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”